Drop Troopers

[LemanRussCommander]

Elysian Drop Troop Army

HQ

Company Command Squad 177pts
Company Commander
Power Fist
Bolt Pistol
Melta Bombs
Homing Beacon
Vets
Flamer
Medi-Pack
Vox Caster
Carapace Armor
Officer of the Fleet


Long Range Ground Scanner 50pts
1x Guardsmen


FAST ATTACK

Vendetta Squadron 280pts
2x Vendetta HB sponsons




Tauros Venator Squadron
Tauros Venator 80pts
TL Lascannons
2x Hunter Killer Missiles
Smoke Launchers

HEAVY SUPPORT

Vulture Gunship 195pts
4x Multiple Rocket Pods
Armored Cockpit

Vulture Gunship 160pts
Twin Linked Autocannon
6x Hunter Killer Missiles
Armored Cockpit

TROOPS

Platoon Command Squad 52pts
Platoon Commander
Aux-grenade launcher, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox- caster

Infantry Squad 103pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Melta
Vox
Demo Charge

Infantry Squad 98pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox
Demo Charge

Heavy Weapons Squad 65pts
3x Mortars

Heavy Weapons Squad 65pts
3x Mortars

Special Weapons Squad 55pts
3x Sniper Rifles

Special Weapons Squad 55pts
3x Flamers

Platoon Command Squad 52pts
Platoon Commander
Aux-grenade launcher, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox- caster

Infantry Squad 103pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Melta
Vox
Demo Charge

Infantry Squad 98pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox
Demo Charge

Veterans 315pts
Vet Sgt
Bolt Pistol, Shotgun
6x aux GL
Flamer
Heavy Flamer
Melta Gun
Lascutter
Demolitions
Valkyrie Carrier
Multilaser, MRP’s, HB sponsons

2001pts

That's my rough list, any critiques would be appreciative, and don't worry i got thick skin

[George Labour]

Keep in mind this is all theoretical and uses my personal playstyle with my armored cavalry list. But it should translate to Elysians as well. Especially since I too am building a list. ^^

I'd lose the mortars and special weapon squads first off, and either use those points to get missile launchers, or either kind of sentinel. 105 points for three fire on the move heavy bolters with move through cover, or two multi meltas for 100 is my preference. Also, if I was going for snipers I'd give them to a vet squad, with camo cloaks, and either a Launcher, or bolter and let them be my long range support.

Speaking of the veteans, you might want to use two flamers, or two melta rather than one of each. If this is going to be your assault squad I'd go with meltas so they can cut down anything, even if the flamers mean you'd get more hits. Probably move the power fist from your CCS to the vet sarge as well to maximise that High strenght stuff. I find my mechanized vets work well with shotgunsm 3 meltas, and a P.fist sarge. Though the squad usually dies if I actually do throw them into close combat the carnage they can wreak, as well as the shock of close combat with guard, has thrown off a few opponents.

AS for fast attack. You're not squadroning the vendettas right? If you are. I'd reccomend against it, as you have an extra slot. Now if you use multiple Taurus I'd squadron up them instead, as there's a 50/50 they ignore the immobilized, are easier to keep together, and people shoot fewer railguns at them.

I'd also try to keep the upgrades on the CCS minimal. In my experience they're better off cheap and giving orders rather than fighting. Or serving as the backup to the line squads. At 2000 points I usually try to run two, but again, I mostly run vets in chimeras whereas your list at least has some platoon commanders to help out.

Also, add another crewman to the scanner. If that one guy bites it you lose the scanner.

[LemanRussCommander]

Thanks for the ideas

The Vendetta Squadron was a typo from my earlier list.

The mortars are a personal fluff choice (im a mortarman in the Marines) gotta show what we can do;)

i was thinking about the special weapons squads though, and i agree the extra melta in the vets would be better with the heavy flamer along with the power fist, i wanted to keep the the assault aspect of the vets, with the fire power they can bring i think they could mop up many basic infantry units in CC.

[Tynskel]

I love mortars!

[Javin]

While many people like units that can do everything, I like have specialized units. PCS with flammers, vets with plasma/melta/sniper (better BS), SWS with flamers, demo, melta (lower BS) melta only because the unit is a cheap prayer anti mech unit.

Looks very mobile. I agree with using a couple Drop MM Sentinals. They can be effective and more importantly, make opponents think about the threat they represent.

[George Labour]

My personal favorite loadout for my vostroyan mechanized vets is three meltas, shotguns for everyone else including the sarge, and a power fist on the sarge. If I can get the charge off I can usually put a dent in most everything short of plague marines and major CC units, even better if I can get two or more squads in there at the same time.

But again, that unit usually dies within a turn, and drop troops seem to be just a bit more fragile than mechanized as you lack the drive by tactics of the chimera.

For drop troops I've been pondering keeping the vets cheap, with grenade launchers, and (maybe) a demo charge and using them as late game objective grabbers, or becoming a speedbump if their valkyrie gets shot down. If you use the valkyrie to outflank this can work a bit better as it'll either reduce the fire it has to suffer, or surprise your opponent right as he's starting to wade through the rest of your army.

AS for mortars it's not that I don't think they're effective, it's just I fight a lot of all fearless armies and the Steel legion models don't have mortar crew. :P

So for me Missile launchers are the go to infantry heavy weapon, which I usually don't take anyways in preference of more sentinels or aircraft. Valkyries can serve as effective mid range anti horde when given rocket pods, and vendettas make very good tank and character snipers. Though I've stopped boterhing giving either heavy bolters as it's either against their role, they die before losing them becomes an issue, I can use those points elsewhere or it makes them slower.

And one last bit of advice, try to have redundancy in your list. With an army that's as prone to casualties as the guard, having two cheaper squads is far better than one specialized unit with all the trimmings. If one squad of vets with meltas and a valkyrie are good, then two are awesome.

[LemanRussCommander]

typo

[LemanRussCommander]

So i revamped the list and i think i got some of the kinks out of it. I downgraded the HQ choice and removed some extra squads and a good ebay grab, added some more valkyries. check out the new list and tell me what you think

Elysian Drop Troop Army in progress

HQ

Company Command Squad 112pts
Company Commander
Bolt Pistol
Melta Bombs
Homing Beacon
Vets
Flamer
Vox Caster
Officer of the Fleet

FAST ATTACK

Vendetta 140pts
Vendetta HB sponsons

Vendetta 140pts
Vendetta HB sponsons

Vendetta 140pts
Vendetta HB sponsons


HEAVY SUPPORT

Vulture Gunship 195pts
4x Multiple Rocket Pods
Armored Cockpit

Vulture Gunship 160pts
Twin Linked Autocannon
6x Hunter Killer Missiles
Armored Cockpit

TROOPS

Platoon Command Squad 192pts
Platoon Commander
Aux-grenade launcher, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox- caster
Valkyrie Carrier
ML, MRP’s HB’s

Infantry Squad 243pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Melta
Vox
Demo Charge
Valkyrie Carrier
ML, MRP’s HB’s

Infantry Squad 238pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox
Demo Charge
Valkyrie Carrier
ML, MRP’s HB’s

Platoon Command Squad 52pts
Platoon Commander
Aux-grenade launcher, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox- caster


Infantry Squad 103pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Melta
Vox
Demo Charge

Infantry Squad 98pts
Sgt w/ aux GL, Melta Bombs
Flamer
Vox
Demo Charge

Veterans 195pts
Vet Sgt
Bolt Pistol, Power Fist
6x aux GL
Heavy Flamer
2x Melta Gun
Lascutter
Demolitions

1986pts