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ThePov
08-20-2009, 03:59 PM
Okay, I'm considering starting a Blood Pact renegade IG force as a break from modelling my normal, uber-loyal Marines, specifically beacuse it allows for a LOT of really cool conversions, but I've run into one problem: How to model the Blood Pact's signature masks? For those who don't know, Lexicanum describes them like this:

A Blood Pact member is most characterised by their ritual iron visor, known as a grotesque, and which is worn by all human members. These generally portray a grimacing, or leering face, often coupled with an exaggerated hooked nose or chin. These masks are usually a black colour, although it has been known for senior officers to wear one of gold or silver.

My problem is how to model these masks. They are a very established part of the fluff (See just about every Gaunt's Ghosts novel), so I can't write them off or be half-arsed with them, they've got to be right. I've looked at most of the more evil-looking GW armies for Fantasy and 40K, and the best I could come up with is Dark Elf Warrior heads, but that would require extensive green stuff work on EVERY MODEL in the entire army, and I'm NOT doing 100 little fiddly green stuff jobs, if only because I'd run through so mucch green stuff that it would be like adding a whole other squad, cash-wise. The FW Renegade enforcer heads look like they would fit the bill quite nicely, but at 11+ pounds a pop plus shipping to the US for 5 heads, I could swing that for the officers, but NOT for every rank and file guy. Any ideas?

Madjob
08-20-2009, 04:26 PM
Not to advertise but I stumbled across these guys again recently and noticed they had essentially done a set of Blood Pact heads.

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=54

Schnitzel
08-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Not to advertise but I stumbled across these guys again recently and noticed they had essentially done a set of Blood Pact heads.

http://www.maxmini.eu/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=12&products_id=54

I've seen at least two guys on the net using these for their blood pact armies as well. Pretty cool looking. I honestly can't think of anything better to use.. unless you can green stuff some masks pretty well.

ThePov
08-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Hmmmm... thanks, it's at least cheaper than the FW ones. Still a little on the expensive side, though, comes to $80 for 100 I'd need, not even counting shipping... Very well done though.

Any other ideas?

davetaylor
08-20-2009, 06:23 PM
Hi there ThePOV

You could take a wander through my blog, particularly the earlier posts, to see what I've done for my Blood Pact. davetaylorminiatures.blogspot.com (http://davetaylorminiatures.blogspot.com)

There are also a couple of links in there to a thread or two on DakkaDakka by an awesome modeler/painter from Scotland, CMDante. He's the one who pushed me to try sculpting some heads for my Pacters.

I wish you all the best and look forward to seeing your take on them!

Cheers
Dave

ThePov
08-20-2009, 06:43 PM
Hi there ThePOV

You could take a wander through my blog, particularly the earlier posts, to see what I've done for my Blood Pact. davetaylorminiatures.blogspot.com (http://davetaylorminiatures.blogspot.com)

There are also a couple of links in there to a thread or two on DakkaDakka by an awesome modeler/painter from Scotland, CMDante. He's the one who pushed me to try sculpting some heads for my Pacters.

I wish you all the best and look forward to seeing your take on them!

Cheers
Dave
Damn... now I'm discouraged, because my painting skills are nowhere NEAR that good...

Still, very nice, and gives me a fair few idea of my own. Thanks a bunch, I'll try to get a test squad out as soon as I have some cash.

elotsip
09-01-2009, 03:48 PM
Here's my take on a blood pact guy. I am making a veteran IG army using these guys. I know the helmets/faces don't really match but I wasnt about to sculpt 45 masks.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/elotsip/Chaos_Militia/pics219.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/elotsip/Chaos_Militia/pics220.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/elotsip/Chaos_Militia/pics221.jpg

splnes
09-01-2009, 05:02 PM
wow yeah, so they dont match but damn thats awesome, i could amagine 100 little skull faces SOB lighting me up with thier flash lights!

gospog
09-01-2009, 07:25 PM
elotsip, that is truly cool!

I myself would sculpt each mask, but then I'd probably never finish the army!

Have you looked into cutting the faces off of plastic goblins (fantasy) and using those? They have sharp noses and chins.

ThePov
09-02-2009, 05:08 AM
elotsip, that is truly cool!

I myself would sculpt each mask, but then I'd probably never finish the army!

Have you looked into cutting the faces off of plastic goblins (fantasy) and using those? They have sharp noses and chins.
I looked at that, but they're more comical than horrific. I'm going for a "I'mgonna rip your throat out" vibe, not "Hehehehehe I'll mischeviously misplace your car keys". Though the later may actually be a worse fate, I do admit. At least with the throat thing you die pretty quick.

thingol
09-02-2009, 05:17 AM
Well, if the car keys are the more evil fate...

Burnie
09-04-2009, 06:42 AM
Sounds really promising, I love the blood pact. Can't wait to see your take on them.

Here's a link to my friend's blood pact log:
http://s3.zetaboards.com/The_Ammobunker/topic/7115360/1/

Hopefully you can get some inspiration from that