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ThePov
08-24-2009, 10:23 AM
So, do any of you BoLSers indulge in that other great Sci-Fi wargaming universe, Classic Battletech?

Personally, I dabble. It was the Mechwarrior click-game offshoot of CBT that got me into minature gaming in the first place, O in a lot of ways, I'm a Mech-jockey at heart, but with the immense cost of TROs and the all metal minis, I don't actually play the physical game that often. I do, however, dabble in megamek occasionally, and I'm madly in love with the CBT fiction universe the fact that the story is always moving forward is great, and as a poli-sci nut I'm always intrigued by all the different powers, so I occasionally dabble in writing some CBT fiction.

So, do you play CBT? How much?

rhacelt
08-25-2009, 10:49 AM
Played it for years still have a regiment of Mercs stashed away. It is a fun game and love the fluff. I have over 60 of the books and still will reread some of them when I get the urge. There are really not any other players up this way these days but when certain freinds breeze through we always break out a game.

Rangerrob
08-25-2009, 11:03 AM
Battletech was my 1st mini based wargame.

Used to run long campaigns at the FLGS, one session per month for 3 years. Was a FanPro commando for a few years too.

Have a little bit of a collection issue.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/rmarden/Project%20Log/100_5559.jpg

Those are 4 mechs deep. So each row is pretty much a lance.

Have not played in a couple years. Been too busy with RL stuff, and any free time has gone into painting my 40k Guard army.

ThePov
08-25-2009, 01:50 PM
Holy crap... that is quite possibly the most massive collection I've ever seen... That's got to be, what, two, three regiments, easy?

I've always wanted to run a long campaign like that, play out one of the major battles from the books... You know, Wolves taking Rasalhauge or Radtstadt, Battle of Luthien, Battles of Thakard and New Avalon from the Civil War, one of the battles of New Avalon or battle for Solaris in the Jihad, that sort of thing, but never had even vaguely enough players at one time for that.

mchawkeye
08-25-2009, 01:55 PM
Battletech. Love it. When i was but a wee lad and went to my first wargames club in Scotland, that was the first game I was invited t play. and it was the bestest. To this day it remains one of my all time favorite games ever.

in the dark years, where wargaming faded away in my life, there was always the Mechwarrior games on my PC which I still play now. indeed, they announced a new game just the other month and I nearly cried with jollity.

Recently I got a hold of the new rule book and a stack of minis. Now all I have to do is find someone at the club I go to now in London, who wants to play with ER PPCs, Streak SRMS rather than Lascannons and missle launchers...

Rangerrob
08-25-2009, 02:21 PM
Thanks Pov! I think it is just over 200 mechs, I have about 50 tanks not shown.

I did up some battle reports of the two campaigns I was running.

1st was a Carver V campaign, FedCom civil war. Ripped right from the Mechcommander2 PC game.
2nd was a Tukayyid campaign.

You can see the Battle reports over at...

http://www.greenhousegamesonline.com/

just click on "Battle Reports" on the left hand menu.

Brother Hespithe
08-25-2009, 03:04 PM
I happen to have 5 'Mechs right in front of me now... undergoing the first stages of a unifying paint scheme for Clan Snow Raven.

I got into CBT (or just BT, lol) back in the early/mid 90's. A bud in the USAF introduced me to the game, my very first TTWG, and I was hooked. I have practically no experience, actually, but when I saw that a new hardcover rules set was released recently, I just had to nab it. There are about half a dozen locals with active interest in CBT and we played a 5-player grudge match this last Saturday. Four Clan 'Mechs vs nine IS 'Mechs. We were not too concerned about much other than having a blast blasting away at one another's towering monstrosities. And yeah, Clan tech is still 'that' good, lol. All four Clan 'Mechs were standing at the end. They were the only one's standing.

Oddly enough, we had more gamers participating in that one game than the total of gamers participating in the last local 40K tourney. Mark one for the old school.

JuiceSpringsteen!
08-27-2009, 05:33 PM
My dad had a few of the old mini's and I played with them as action figures. Those and Mechwarrior 2 Mercs got me hooked ito gaming. Me and some guys up here are trying to start it, as well as Age of Destruction up here in the North DFW area, if anyone around here wants to play, send me a PM

raybans
09-04-2009, 08:09 AM
speaking of Battle Tech

there is going to be a new mech warrior game

some excellent clips on youtube

ThePov
09-04-2009, 01:34 PM
speaking of Battle Tech

there is going to be a new mech warrior game

some excellent clips on youtube
Yeah, I saw that. There's a lot of really good buzz on the CBT forums for it, and it certainly looks pretty. Unfortunately, I'm pretty darn sure my comp isn't NEAR good enough to play it...:(

Still, the actual game and the story is fun enough for me. I'm planning on buying a Word Of Blake Shadow Division Command II sometime soon, just for the fun of it. I'm thinking an Archangel, Highlander, Legacy, Mad Cat, Deva, and Crab. Now I just need to pick which division...

gwensdad
09-07-2009, 02:05 PM
I wish I could start playing again, but the game store I play 40K at only believes in some super-cheesy rules and everyone there calls you "weak" if you don't play with beyond-clan tech. These guys have talked that they could easily take Terra with their army of all-heavy/assault.

In other words, most of them hated the anouncment that the new Mechwarrior would happen in 3015, before all the "KeWL STUFF!" was available.

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10-28-2009, 09:25 PM
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megatrons2nd
12-25-2009, 08:01 PM
I play Battletech. It is my favorite game. I live in Knox IN if you want to try to get together for a game gwensdad.

Bigred
12-29-2009, 02:22 PM
HOLY MOLY Rangerrob!

That minis collection is crazy! I played Battletech hardcore for years back in the day (before the minis). I'm flipping through my original 1986 Technical Readout-3025 right now for old times sake.

Now you have me wanting to take my House Kurita Sword of Light Panther out for a spin. Ahh, the glory of using PPCs on light mechs. That never gets old.

Colonel Pryde
04-01-2010, 09:04 PM
Same here, the Wizkid's "Clicktek" got me into this miniature games world. But Wizkids is dead, and I am stuck with a thousand plastic minuatures attracting dust. CBT is probably the most complex and technical CMG that I've played. The prices aren't that bad but paying 30+ dollars on multiple books get pricey fast. It's hard to also find a good gaming community in the local area.

Aenir
04-01-2010, 11:33 PM
Id love to get into it, only played a couple of games of megamek, and the LGS doesnt have any battletech and iron wind minis are actually quite expensive

Daemonette666
07-10-2010, 11:36 AM
Battletech was my 1st mini based wargame.

Used to run long campaigns at the FLGS, one session per month for 3 years. Was a FanPro commando for a few years too.

Have a little bit of a collection issue.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/rmarden/Project%20Log/100_5559.jpg

Those are 4 mechs deep. So each row is pretty much a lance.

Have not played in a couple years. Been too busy with RL stuff, and any free time has gone into painting my 40k Guard army.
I should do that with my collection of Battletech. I have taken a photo about a 18 months ago of my 40K collection, but that has grown to nearly half as much again what it was at that time. I calculated I was up tp 52,000 points of WH 40K forces.

My Battletech is my real passion, and I have been collecting it for nearly 20 years. Some of my units are really rare. I estimate I have about 2.5 Clan Clusters including vehicles and Battle Armour and protomechs. Inner Sphere, I have a level 2 short of a level 4 of WOB/Comstar, a regiment each for Lyran, Fed Suns, Mercenary/Kell Hounds, and an understrength mixed regiment for Draconis, Free Worlds, and Capellan. Obviously I have not had time to paint them all, and I even have abour 2 companies of new stuffreleased within the last 12 months that is not even put together, including Solaris VII stuff.

If I ever retire and finish it all, I think the wargamer's curse will happen, and I will die of a heart attack or something like that, having achieved my lifes goal. LOL

Anyway you inspired me to take some time out to organise it all for a photo. I might have to put it up on this thread.

Daemonette666
07-13-2010, 02:33 AM
So, do any of you BoLSers indulge in that other great Sci-Fi wargaming universe, Classic Battletech?

Personally, I dabble. It was the Mechwarrior click-game offshoot of CBT that got me into minature gaming in the first place, O in a lot of ways, I'm a Mech-jockey at heart, but with the immense cost of TROs and the all metal minis, I don't actually play the physical game that often. I do, however, dabble in megamek occasionally, and I'm madly in love with the CBT fiction universe the fact that the story is always moving forward is great, and as a poli-sci nut I'm always intrigued by all the different powers, so I occasionally dabble in writing some CBT fiction.

So, do you play CBT? How much?
I play it every second Saturday normally.

One of my friends has almost twiceas many Battletech miniatures in his collection as I do. He does not play any GW games.

I have now counted my Battletech forces which now numer 902 bases, either regular infantry squads, Battle Armour squads, Vehicles Protomechs, or Battlemechs.

I am going to try to put photos of them into this message if I can link them from an email. I do not have them on any websites.

http://mail.iinet.net.au/mail/mime.pl?file=WOB%20ComStasr%20Lyran%20and%20FedSun s-1.JPG&name=

http://mail.iinet.net.au/mail/mime.pl?file=Clan%20Galaxy-1.JPG&name=

http://mail.iinet.net.au/mail/mime.pl?file=Capellans%20FWL%20Draconis%20and%20Me rcenaries-1.JPG&name=

Porty1119
07-13-2010, 10:31 AM
Battletech looks pretty awesome, but is there any company that still sells rules and minis?

Daemonette666
07-14-2010, 07:57 PM
I hope this works. If it does you should see 3 photos eith my collection of Battletech Miniatures. I started collecting them in 1986 or there abouts.

http://mail.iinet.net.au/mail/mime.pl?file=Capellans%20FWL%20Draconis%20and%20Me rcenaries.JPG&name=

These are my Free Worlds League, Draconis Combine, Capellan Confederatoin, and Mercenaries forces.

http://mail.iinet.net.au/mail/mime.pl?file=Clan%20Galaxy.JPG&name=

This is my Clan collection both first and second line, and it includes protomechs.

http://mail.iinet.net.au/mail/mime.pl?file=WOB%20ComStasr%20Lyran%20and%20FedSun s.JPG&name=

This last photo is my WOB/Com Star, Federated Suns and Lyran Alliance forces.

I have photos of each sub group, though I think that would be too much for a post.

Daemonette666
07-14-2010, 09:20 PM
This damn website cut out my photos. They were on the screen, all 3 of them, and when I went back into this thread they were gone.

*&&^%GVHH and a few more nasty words.

Daemonette666
07-14-2010, 09:23 PM
Battletech looks pretty awesome, but is there any company that still sells rules and minis?
For miniatures go to Iron Wind Metals or Ral Partha Europe. For rule books, try Catalyst Games - Official Classic battletech web site

Still peeved off that the photos I posted are gone. 902 miniatures in 10 Classic Battletech Armies.

Porty1119
07-15-2010, 02:34 PM
After doing a bit of work, I found some old Battletech books and stuff up at http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?skip=0&m=product_list&c=22. There's a link to minis if you need it.

By the way, anyone recognize this thing? It looks awesome!
http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=47608

Daemonette666
07-15-2010, 09:31 PM
After doing a bit of work, I found some old Battletech books and stuff up at http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?skip=0&m=product_list&c=22. There's a link to minis if you need it.

By the way, anyone recognize this thing? It looks awesome!
http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=47608
The miniature you want recognised looks like a resculpted Karnov Vtol. It could be a new miniature for one of the vehicle classications they created in the new Battletech update. a WIGE - Wing in ground effect hover tank, but I think it looks more VTOL.

I recommend you look up Iron Wind Metals online store and check out the vehicle section for VTOLS.

HsojVvad
07-16-2010, 10:52 AM
I am trying to get back into Battletech right now. If you go to the Catalyst website you can buy all the books from there.

I was shocked at the pricing. I think it's $45 for the rule book wich isn't too bad, but to buy it in PDF format it's only $15. WTF!

You can't beat that price. With all the complaints GW gets for not having their books in PDF, well these guys books are in PDF format if you like and for fractions of the price that it would be in paper format.

So getting into BT is not that pricey. If you don't want to use minis you do not have to. But you can use the if you like too.

So much cheaper than GW games that is for shure. I also like you can use the rules of what ever you want. Basic advanced what ever.

Also they give the beginer rules for free off their website. You can't go wrong when a company gives out their rules for free.

Scroll down to the bottom to get the free quick set rules for free.
http://www.classicbattletech.com/ind...tion=downloads

Their home page is here

http://www.classicbattletech.com/

I loved BT and I am glad that I can play by using the free rules and worry about buying later. I strongly recomend it to try. It's not on a big scale as 40K is usually 4-12 mechs vs 4-12 mechs.

Hours and hours of fun. They even give you paper cut outs you can print and cut out to use as mechs.

Porty1119
07-17-2010, 02:41 PM
I came across the old ruleset c.1990 and almost fainted at the complexity. I guess that's one of those things that makes more sense once you play it, right?

Also, I'm thinking about playing Clan Ghost Bear, but can't find a codex-y thing. Help!

Daemonette666
07-18-2010, 07:56 AM
Yeah, I saw that. There's a lot of really good buzz on the CBT forums for it, and it certainly looks pretty. Unfortunately, I'm pretty darn sure my comp isn't NEAR good enough to play it...:(

Still, the actual game and the story is fun enough for me. I'm planning on buying a Word Of Blake Shadow Division Command II sometime soon, just for the fun of it. I'm thinking an Archangel, Highlander, Legacy, Mad Cat, Deva, and Crab. Now I just need to pick which division...
Camospecs online has pictures of the cammo schemes for some of the WOB shadow Divisions. The 52nd varies the most from conventinal WOB/Comstar colour schemes. It has a bold red upper body with the lower half blending from Dark Grey at the waist to Black near the feet. It has gold highlights.

A mate of mine wants me to paint

Daemonette666
07-21-2010, 07:32 AM
This damn website cut out my photos. They were on the screen, all 3 of them, and when I went back into this thread they were gone.

*&&^%GVHH and a few more nasty words.
http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/Daemonette666/Battletech%20Collection/WOBComStasrLyranandFedSuns.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/Daemonette666/Battletech%20Collection/ClanGalaxy.jpg

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/Daemonette666/Battletech%20Collection/CapellansFWLDraconisandMercenaries.jpg

Some pics of my collection if they stay this time, enjoy. I put them on photobucket and hope this works.

plasticaddict
07-21-2010, 09:29 PM
Ahh, my first love of gaming. I got the box set back in the early 80's and started a small collection. That grew into a larger collection that my mom got rid of when I was in the service. So I started over and built my collection to a size larger than I had before, then I got married. Needless to say I lost my toys durring the divorce. I now have 350+ Mechs, 100+ tanks, apcs, vtols and artillery pieces, 20 Aerospace fighters, 10 Dropships, 2 Stars of Toads and an assortment of infantry. I've picked up all of the avaliable map packs and have all of the books including some used book store finds of the original 3050 and 3055, giving me all the versions of those books. I've also managed to pick up some of the "lawsuit" mechs, the stuff I started with back in the day.

I also have all the Mech Warrior RPG books, 1st, 2nd and 3rd edition. I played in a Mech Warrior, Battletech campaign that met weekly for a bit over two years. I got my kids into the game, and still manage to get in a few games at my FLGS with some friends. Once you get into the gamne you can never get out it seems.

For those that will ask I don't have pics, I don't have a digital camera and don't really plan on getting one. Maybe one day.

Bigred
07-21-2010, 09:51 PM
Wow, that is a massive minis collection. Classic BT takes me back. I remember the days of duking it out with light mech lances with my Kurita Sword of Light Panther.

Good times

Daemonette666
07-21-2010, 10:23 PM
Wow, that is a massive minis collection. Classic BT takes me back. I remember the days of duking it out with light mech lances with my Kurita Sword of Light Panther.

Good times
Yeah, was it a pink Panther? LOL I know someone who painted their panther mech pink.

This small collecton of 902 miniatures took over 20 years to collect.

Only 1/3 of them are painted. One column there looks like its undercoated, but it is actually a Word of Blake/ Comstar force. that is nearly all pinted.

I have about 4 of the small packing boxes of books, map sheets, etc in the garage, and another 3 boxes of novels.

My mate Martin has nearly 2000 Battletech mini's. I know this because he has catalogued them all, and I have painted nearly 1500 of them for him in the last 12 years.

Bigred
07-21-2010, 10:47 PM
My good ol Panther was many things over the years (blown up, on fire, overheated, no head, at the bottom of a lake) but it was never pink. Non-standard paint schemes like that will get you exiled from the Combine.

Daemonette666
07-22-2010, 03:40 AM
My good ol Panther was many things over the years (blown up, on fire, overheated, no head, at the bottom of a lake) but it was never pink. Non-standard paint schemes like that will get you exiled from the Combine.
LOL, his was a joke mech, I think he ran it as part of an ex Draconis Merc unit based in the Magistry of Canopis., or FWl or something like that.

I forgot to put one of my mechs in the Army collecton photos. It is down in the garage (which is in a mess), and in pieces in one of my cases or boxes. It is the old Robotech 200 ton Destroids like the pic below.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm28/Shadow_otm/Motivationals/motivator7874901.jpg

It is part resin - one piece body and legs, and part Pewte - weapons and arms, and is to Battletech scale. I like using it as the April Fools prank mech - the Orca.

I have some nice photos of paint jobs I have done for my mates, and for myself. I should put some up here now and then.

Daemonette666
07-22-2010, 05:42 AM
I said I should put some of the mechs I have painted over the years for myself and my Mates up here for you to look at.

What do you think of them?

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/Daemonette666/Battletech%20Collection/Berserker-GreenCam.jpg

Berserker mech I painted for a mate.

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/Daemonette666/Battletech%20Collection/MadCatRemake-GreenGreyCam.jpg

Jade Falcon Timber Wolf Omni-Mech

http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy251/Daemonette666/Battletech%20Collection/ApolloHeliosAnvilThunderGallowGlasWraith.jpg

A selection of Inner Sphere mechs I painted for my mate.

HsojVvad
07-29-2010, 09:29 PM
Nice Mechs Daemonette666.

Just for those who don't know, a new Technical Readout TRO:3085 has just been released. New stuff is coming out for Battletech.

I am hoping for the 25th Anniversary edtion will come out soon.

Daemonette666
11-29-2010, 06:05 AM
Nice Mechs Daemonette666.

Just for those who don't know, a new Technical Readout TRO:3085 has just been released. New stuff is coming out for Battletech.

I am hoping for the 25th Anniversary edtion will come out soon.
I got a look at a mates copy of TRO:3085. I can not wait till Heavy metal get up to date and bring out updated record sheets for it. They will have to make an update that makes most of the level 3 tech items used to level 2 so they can use the new mechs in competitions.

Some of them are really fast and hit hard, but are so fragile, and heat up too quickly. I like the use of the improved jump jets on a lot of the new mechs.

Check out a few of my home grown designs on Heavy Metal's website. I noticed one of my designs which I used someone elses mech template as a base, and then highly modified it, still has his designed by notation in it. Well I changed the speed, Armour, added Level 3 tech weapons, and a lot of level 3 tech components, so it is now a completely new design.

There are a few gamers in my area who last played Classic Battletech nearly 8 years ago, and are still trying to convert to the new rule book. I will have to organise a tournament or a campaign with them.

Daemonette666
11-29-2010, 06:07 AM
I got a look at a mates copy of TRO:3085. I can not wait till Heavy metal get up to date and bring out updated record sheets for it. They will have to make an update that makes most of the level 3 tech items used to level 2 so they can use the new mechs in competitions.

Some of them are really fast and hit hard, but are so fragile, and heat up too quickly. I like the use of the improved jump jets on a lot of the new mechs.

Check out a few of my home grown designs on Heavy Metal's website. I noticed one of my designs which I used someone elses mech template as a base, and then highly modified it, still has his designed by notation in it. Well I changed the speed, Armour, added Level 3 tech weapons, and a lot of level 3 tech components, so it is now a completely new design.

There are a few gamers in my area who last played Classic Battletech nearly 8 years ago, and are still trying to convert to the new rule book. I will have to organise a tournament or a campaign with them.
Oh I go under the name of cyberdyke on the heavy metal website.

Porty1119
11-29-2010, 03:40 PM
I just try to port real-world vehicles into CBT. If you look on the wiki (www.sarna.net) and search under 'Spectre" and 'Warthog (AeroSpace Fighter)' then you'll know exactly what I mean.

Daemonette666
12-23-2010, 04:54 PM
I just try to port real-world vehicles into CBT. If you look on the wiki (www.sarna.net) and search under 'Spectre" and 'Warthog (AeroSpace Fighter)' then you'll know exactly what I mean.
I know what you mean, the A-10 Warthoig is a dedicated ground attack aircraft, The spectre is very much like puff the magic dragon c-47 variant. All the tools for creating your own vehicles are in the book and aitcraft in the heavy metal programs. The basic rule to create your own are in the classic Battletech rules so they are practically asking you to create your own.

I have created a whole range of Omnimechs for the Minesotta Tribe / Clan Dark Tiger, who are survivors of the not-named-clan formerly Clan Wolverine. The name change is a similar thing to what Clan diamond shark did.

therealjohnny5
12-24-2010, 06:38 PM
Love me some BT. Literally just dug my old rulebook and compendiums out from a box in hopes of getting some of my 40K mates into it...i'm really trying to branch out these days.:D

Daemonette666
12-26-2010, 07:53 PM
Love me some BT. Literally just dug my old rulebook and compendiums out from a box in hopes of getting some of my 40K mates into it...i'm really trying to branch out these days.:D

Most people do not want to get into another gaming system, or find the rules too complicated. The seem to go with GW's range of games, War Machine, or Maifaux. Those who have played before, just seem disinterested in getting back into it.

I have been trying to get Classic Battletech going at my local gaming shop/club. There were a few guys playing i at my local gaming shop/club. They were learning the new version of the rules, and when I tried to help them out, one practically told me to P**s off. You see I showed him where the rule to something they were doing wrong was referenced in the new rule book. They were shooting weapons from and arm attached to a destroyed torso on a level 1 mech. He said that since the arm had not been destroyed or had a 12 rolled for criticals he was still able to use the weapons on it. The guy was embarrassed when I showed corrected him, because he told the others he had read up on the new rules.

Well I have not seen them in the shop for a long time now, so that is their loss. I have a group of friends who I play CBT with and we meet at the house on Martin the GM who lives about 60 kilometers away. We are just starting our 10th or possibly 11th campaign after nearly 13 years of gaming together. We are now going against WOB at the start of the Jihad, and unfortunately Martin has hinted that the 52nd Shadow Division and the Mano Domini wil be show up later in the campaign.

Martin has me painting up about 18 vehicles, 12 new battle armour squads, and a few mechs to fill the gaps in his TO&E. I get paid to paint them, but white mechs are harder to paint than you would think. I like to include shading, and the grey undercoat keeps show through the white. I found that painting the 52nd Division colour scheme was a lot easier.

Between myself, Martin and another friend Geoff, we should be able to get around 4 companys (40 bases) of infantry with APC transports, 48 battle armour squads, 108 Vehicles, and 120 Battlemechs all painted in Comstar or WOB white and 52nd Shadow Division colour schemes.

Hopefully we will only be facing off against no more than 2 o3 level II formations of enemy during any one game. We only have 6 mech pilots, 8 mechs to choose to pilot from, 6 squads of battle armour, and 4 aerofighters pilots. At the end of the last campaign we had 2 dropships in average condition, that we only owe about 100 million C-bills on. We have a limit on what equipment we can keep because of the Wolf Dragoons Contract we signed. So we have to sell 4 aerofighters, 8 mechs that are really old or in bad condition, and will probably keep the extra 20 suits of battle armour in storage for resupply and parts.

I hated when CBT started to die off. It was such a popular game. Let's hope it makes a come back.

therealjohnny5
12-26-2010, 08:46 PM
Agreed. How are you painting your white? Are you going for a "cool" or "warm" white? The secret to painting white is never actually painting pure white.

Daemonette666
12-27-2010, 07:54 AM
Agreed. How are you painting your white? Are you going for a "cool" or "warm" white? The secret to painting white is never actually painting pure white.
Spray can on a Base coat in grey, then spray light grey from above miniature, then white after that. Each cost dries fully before next is added. Then I layer dry brush the whole thing in white, except where the shading would normally be. I add black lining to the mode in the crevices and armour joints, and gun metal to guns and sockets/ joints which are then washed with a watered down black pant. Detailing and other trim/checkered pattern colours are added after that.

Even after 4 or 5 dry brush layers of white, the grey colour leeches through, even though it looked covered when applied. It gets very annoying, which is why I have slowed my painting down.

therealjohnny5
12-28-2010, 09:00 AM
As an alternative you can try base coating in Codex Gray (or equivalent). Start painting with 1:3 ratio of grey to white, really thin. Keep out of cracks as much as possible. Give it a wash of Badab Black, it'll fill the cracks. Then continue building up from the white mixture by adding more white and keeping it thin. Watch the cracks this time. It'll take a while but it'll come out pretty nice once you get used to it.

Daemonette666
12-31-2010, 06:47 PM
As an alternative you can try base coating in Codex Gray (or equivalent). Start painting with 1:3 ratio of grey to white, really thin. Keep out of cracks as much as possible. Give it a wash of Badab Black, it'll fill the cracks. Then continue building up from the white mixture by adding more white and keeping it thin. Watch the cracks this time. It'll take a while but it'll come out pretty nice once you get used to it.
That is the problem, time. He always wants them done yesterday, and I hate having to wait for the watered down paint to dry.

I think I have found a solution, and it seems to work.

Undercoat in pure white. Use elf grey, or another pale grey colour on the shaded areas and beneath the vehicle/ mech. Add in boltgun metal on the metal parts which is then washed with a small ammount of watered down black so as not to get it on the white. Black line the mech in the grooves, which takes less time than multiple thin coats of paint, and then cut back any errors with white or grey as appropriate. Add in any decals or hand drawn designs/chequers and then base.

It seems to work well. and I make sure I have a separate brush for the black, the greys, the metal, and the white.

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I abbandoned everything GW back in 1995 and sold or traded them for Battletech. What does that make me?
Even though I have now gotten back into 40K and have 1000 minis across 5 armies.