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B-rock
12-20-2010, 02:57 AM
Njal stormcaller- TA =270
Ulrik =180
wolfguardx4 - TA TH SS redeemer =492
blood clawx14 crusader = 470
grey huntersx10- 2xplasma gun=160
grey huntersx10- 2xplasma gun=160
vendicator -EA =130
longfangx5 -lascannonx2 heavybolterx2 =135
total= 1997

or

Njal- TA =270
Wolf priest =100
Ulrik =180
wolfguardx4 -TA TH SS redeemer =492
bloodclawsx14 -meltagun =215
bloodclawsx14 -meltagun =215
crusader- multimelta =260
crusader- multimelta =260
total=1992

i like both the first is more balanced but i like the second list more becuz it is rampaging fast combat.
the idea with the blood claws is the priest give them preferred enemy and that unit with out the priest is 56 attacks on the charge and the landraider lets them charge. njal and the terminators charge with the blood claws.

plz leave ideas and comments on which is more valid if either is valid at all

lowdog
12-20-2010, 10:17 AM
Njal stormcaller- TA =270
Ulrik =180
wolfguardx4 - TA TH SS redeemer =492
blood clawx14 crusader = 470
grey huntersx10- 2xplasma gun=160
grey huntersx10- 2xplasma gun=160
vendicator -EA =130
longfangx5 -lascannonx2 heavybolterx2 =135
total= 1997

or

Njal- TA =270
Wolf priest =100
Ulrik =180
wolfguardx4 -TA TH SS redeemer =492
bloodclawsx14 -meltagun =215
bloodclawsx14 -meltagun =215
crusader- multimelta =260
crusader- multimelta =260
total=1992


I like the second list better on the fact that you have transports for the bloodclaws. While I don't ascribe to the school of thought that says EVERY one of your troop squads needs a transport, you definitely need some to contest far objectives and redeploy as necessary. However you are looking at only 2 scoring units in a 2000 point game, which will be a problem at that points level. I would swap one of the crusaders and one of the blood claws squads for 2 grey hunter packs in rhinos (or at least one in a rhino, the second can footslog and camp on a home objective).

I'd also drop Ulrik. I realize you aren't making a tournament list, so if he's your fave character then by all means include him, but for 80 points over a normal wolfpriest I don't think you get what you pay for. That second list already has a vanilla priest for the claws. Dropping Ulrik, one crusader and a blood claw pack can get you 2 grey hunter packs with transports, and at least a whirlwind or landspeeder, maybe some long fangs for a better firebase.

Finally, I would recommend against all TH/SS termies. WG just pay too many points for that armament to be cost-effective in large numbers. 5 WG vs. 5 vanilla marines = 115 point difference. That's a vindicator right there. One or two to soak up high AP shots/power weapon hits is fine, the rest should go power weapon/combi-bolter imo.

B-rock
12-20-2010, 01:00 PM
i see where your going here the first list is more your style than becuz the bloodclaws are in the crusader too