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Gorgar
09-10-2009, 07:00 AM
Please rate for compostion for a tournament.

Warboss: Powerklaw, Twin-linked Shoota, Attack squig, Cybork body, Boss Pole, Eavy Armour. 125pts
Nob Squad: 4 x Choppa & Twin Linked Shoota, 2 x Power Klaw and Slugga, 1 x Choppa & Slugga & Waaagh! Banner, 1 x Pain boy. All with 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, Stikkbombz.
In a Truk with Red Paint, & Big Shoota 403pts

9 x Burnas, 1 x Mek with KMB 150pts
In a Battlewagon with Ard Case, Deff Rolla, Red Paint, Grot Riggers, Kannon, 2 x Big Shootas. 155pts

15 x Lootas 225pts

30 Shoota boys including Nob with PK and eavy armour. 220pts

30 Shoota boys including Nob with PK and eavy armour. 220pts

15 Slugga boys including Nob with Big Choppa and eavy armour. 116pts

15 Slugga boys including Nob with Big Choppa and eavy armour. 116pts

2 x Deffkoptas with twin-linked Rokkit Launchas 90pts

2 x Deffkoptas with twin-linked Rokkit Launchas 90pts

3 x Lobbas with 6 extra grotz 93pts

Play theory is Deffkoptas scout Turbo boost and target vehicles. Sluggas run in front of Shootas as speed bumps.Truk and Battlewagon move forward full speed to disgorge and assault. Lootas and Lobbas target troops. First wave is the long range Lobbas and Lootas, 2nd is the battlewagon/Burnas and truck/Nobs, 3rd is the boys.

An alternative i'm considering is dropping the Lootas taking a Big Mek with SAG and adding a 5 man Stormboy hit squad.

Chumbalaya
09-10-2009, 10:41 AM
TL shoota + choppa = less attacks = not good.

1 Trukk and 1 BW is not enough armor to survive, especially if you have no KFF. Get more or don't bother. 3-4 BW would be enough or 2-3 BW and some Trukks.

BW don't need all that junk on there, you want them moving. Deff Rolla, Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, 'Ard Case, and a big shoota is enough.

Nobs need bosspoles.

Lobbas suck, Kannons are better (you don't need more anti-infantry, S8 at BS3 isn't bad for so cheap.

1 unit of Lootas isn't enough, you need 2 at least.

15 Sluggas die. If you want screens, bring Grots.

It would get high on comp because it's so bad, but good comp scores don't win games and neither does this list.

Chumbalaya
09-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Double post fail.

sorienor
09-11-2009, 05:15 AM
Please rate for compostion for a tournament.

Warboss: Powerklaw, Twin-linked Shoota, Attack squig, Cybork body, Boss Pole, Eavy Armour. 125pts
Nob Squad: 4 x Choppa & Twin Linked Shoota, 2 x Power Klaw and Slugga, 1 x Choppa & Slugga & Waaagh! Banner, 1 x Pain boy. All with 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, Stikkbombz.
In a Truk with Red Paint, & Big Shoota 403pts

9 x Burnas, 1 x Mek with KMB 150pts
In a Battlewagon with Ard Case, Deff Rolla, Red Paint, Grot Riggers, Kannon, 2 x Big Shootas. 155pts

15 x Lootas 225pts

30 Shoota boys including Nob with PK and eavy armour. 220pts

30 Shoota boys including Nob with PK and eavy armour. 220pts

15 Slugga boys including Nob with Big Choppa and eavy armour. 116pts

15 Slugga boys including Nob with Big Choppa and eavy armour. 116pts

2 x Deffkoptas with twin-linked Rokkit Launchas 90pts

2 x Deffkoptas with twin-linked Rokkit Launchas 90pts

3 x Lobbas with 6 extra grotz 93pts

Play theory is Deffkoptas scout Turbo boost and target vehicles. Sluggas run in front of Shootas as speed bumps.Truk and Battlewagon move forward full speed to disgorge and assault. Lootas and Lobbas target troops. First wave is the long range Lobbas and Lootas, 2nd is the battlewagon/Burnas and truck/Nobs, 3rd is the boys.

An alternative i'm considering is dropping the Lootas taking a Big Mek with SAG and adding a 5 man Stormboy hit squad.

Don't get the TL shootas on the boss or nobs, instead spend the same points on kombi-skorchas. You will do A LOT more damage that way..and can still fire shootas if you want..I rarely bother myself.

If you don't mind cheese, make sure you mix up the nob gear enough so each is unique. One good way to do that is to have a couple 'throw-away' models without 'eavy armor to suck up the power weapon wounds.

Putting burnas in a battlewagon with a 'ard case is a complete waste of the burnas. If you keep it open-topped you can fire ALL the templates from ANY point on the hull..even stacked on top of each other. Or you can get out and assault after moving with all those power weapon attacks...neither of which you can do with the 'ard case. Give it armor plates instead to ignore the stunned results.

Instead of extra grots on the lobbas, take ammo runts. Same price, but make sure they are listed correctly in your army list.

I don't entirely understand the 2 units of 15..just for objective sitting? If you want that get shootas or grots for that purpose. Personally I would run 3x20 units of shootas (with 2xbig shootas) and 1 unit of 30 sluggas, all with PK nobs

mercer
09-11-2009, 06:48 AM
Please rate for compostion for a tournament.

Warboss: Powerklaw, Twin-linked Shoota, Attack squig, Cybork body, Boss Pole, Eavy Armour. 125pts
Nob Squad: 4 x Choppa & Twin Linked Shoota, 2 x Power Klaw and Slugga, 1 x Choppa & Slugga & Waaagh! Banner, 1 x Pain boy. All with 'eavy armour, cybork bodies, Stikkbombz.
In a Truk with Red Paint, & Big Shoota 403pts

9 x Burnas, 1 x Mek with KMB 150pts
In a Battlewagon with Ard Case, Deff Rolla, Red Paint, Grot Riggers, Kannon, 2 x Big Shootas. 155pts

15 x Lootas 225pts

30 Shoota boys including Nob with PK and eavy armour. 220pts

30 Shoota boys including Nob with PK and eavy armour. 220pts

15 Slugga boys including Nob with Big Choppa and eavy armour. 116pts

15 Slugga boys including Nob with Big Choppa and eavy armour. 116pts

2 x Deffkoptas with twin-linked Rokkit Launchas 90pts

2 x Deffkoptas with twin-linked Rokkit Launchas 90pts

3 x Lobbas with 6 extra grotz 93pts

Play theory is Deffkoptas scout Turbo boost and target vehicles. Sluggas run in front of Shootas as speed bumps.Truk and Battlewagon move forward full speed to disgorge and assault. Lootas and Lobbas target troops. First wave is the long range Lobbas and Lootas, 2nd is the battlewagon/Burnas and truck/Nobs, 3rd is the boys.

An alternative i'm considering is dropping the Lootas taking a Big Mek with SAG and adding a 5 man Stormboy hit squad.

Warboss is spot on :cool:

Don't give nobz twin linked shootas, you loose attacks as you get +1 from ccw and a pistol. Give them a boss pole, thats unless your going to put your boss with them. Take a battlewagon instead, still open topped and not as fragile. Worth the points, especially if you take them en masse.

Burnas aren't that good. They need a transport to get there, which any smart player will wreck and let them foot slog. Making one of them into a mek with KMB is a waste of points with that poor ballistic skill. Make this burnas lootas, throw in a big mek with a power klaw in case they get assaulted and a KFF which is highly annoying. This will double your lootas, which the other ones btw should be inside a transport of some kind to protect them or they will get gunned down easily.

I wouldn't waste the points on giving the nobs in the boy units eavy armour, just assign wounds to the boyz and there is a lot of ap4 weapons about these days.

Reduce the 15 choppa boyz to 10 and throw them in a trukk, you want them in combat a.s.a.p!