2 Tyranid list at 2000 pts. for a tournamnet this saturday.

[trygonprime]

This is a tournament list going this sat so all thought are welcomed.

I have narrowed my lists down to two. The are very close to the same with one big difference. One has 2 Trygons while the other has 3. One has 40 toxic stealers while the other has 50. I have played both and they seam to behave equally in play testing.

So i am putting both list up for criticism and thoughts on what i have to worry about with these list.

== HQ ==
Hive Tyrant (1) - Scything Talons, Lash Whip And Bonesword, Wings, Paroxysm, Leech Essence, Hive Commander

== Elites ==
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (6)

The Doom Of Malan'tai (1)
Mycetic Spore (1)

== Troops ==
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs

== Heavy Support ==
Trygon (1) - AG, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed
Trygon (1) - AG, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed
Trygon (1) - AG, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed

== Total ==
1994 pts.




The secound list with slight changes.

== HQ ==
Hive Tyrant (1) - Scything Talons, Lash Whip And Bonesword, Armoured Shell, Paroxysm, Leech Essence, Hive Commander

== Elites ==
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)

The Doom Of Malan'tai (1)
Mycetic Spore (1)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)

== Troops ==
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs

== Heavy Support ==
Trygon (1) - AG, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed =
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp =

== Total ==
1997 pts.

So would list one or list 2 be the way to go?

[trygonprime]

Here a adjustment to the list with the adage of boys before toys mindset. Taking toxin sacs off allows for some up grades and keeping the 3 Trygons.

in the second list i just get a ton more bodies.


I third list that kind of splits the other two in two. I like it but it could be weaker then the other two.

I have given up re-rolls to wound on the genestealer's in the first two lists, good idea or not?
On the third list I would get 8 more genestealer's

List one

== HQ ==
Hive Tyrant (1) - Lash Whip And Bonesword, Twin-Linked Devourer - Brainleech Worms, Wings, Paroxysm, Leech Essence, Hive Commander

== Elites ==
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)

The Doom Of Malan'tai (1) =.
Mycetic Spore (1)

== Troops ==
Genestealer Brood (10)
Genestealer Brood (10)
Genestealer Brood (10)
Genestealer Brood (10)

== Heavy Support ==
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp
Trygon (1) - AG, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed

== Total ==
1992 pts.



List 2

== HQ ==
Swarmlord Brood (345 pts.)
Swarmlord (1) = 280 pts.
Tyrant Guard (1) - Lash Whip

== Elites ==

The Doom Of Malan'tai (1)
Mycetic Spore (1)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)

== Troops ==
Genestealer Brood (10)
Genestealer Brood (10)
Genestealer Brood (10)
Genestealer Brood (10)
Hormagaunt Brood (17) - Toxin Sacs

== Heavy Support ==
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp

== Total ==
1993 pts.

List 3

== HQ ==
Hive Tyrant (1) - Lash Whip And Bonesword, Twin-Linked Devourer - Brainleech Worms, Wings, Paroxysm, Leech Essence, Hive Commander

== Elites ==

The Doom Of Malan'tai (1)
Mycetic Spore (1)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)

== Troops ==
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs

== Heavy Support ==
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp

== Total ==
2000 pts.

Once again comments are welcomed.

[Chumbalaya]

I'd say neither, but some elements are salvageable.

Overloading on early threats is a good idea, but without any means of opening up/slowing down mech beyond assault, you will have problems.

I think you'd be just as effective, if not moreso, just deploying on the table and rushing across with support from Hive Guard and Tervigons providing additional pressure.

[trygonprime]

Both those unit don't work well with a reserve army. I tried using them before but as you say they are for walking across the table. my meta doesn;t have the 15+ guard parking lots or 9 razorback that everyone talks about. Have yet to play them.

Assaulting mech seam to work well. and i have some minor shooting that can open a few transports if I get rear shots.

This was Suggested this as a option and I thought it was intriguing. It would give me sold backfield. The rest of the army just attacks. Mmmm interesting

== HQ ==
Hive Tyrant (1) - Scything Talons, Lash Whip And Bonesword, Wings, Paroxysm, Leech Essence, Hive Commander

== Elites ==

The Doom Of Malan'tai (1)
Mycetic Spore (1)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (7)

== Troops ==

Broodlord (1) - Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
Genestealer (9) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Genestealer Brood (10) - Toxin Sacs
Termagant Brood (10) - Fleshborer
Tervigon (1) - Cluster Spines, Toxin Sacs, Cat

== Heavy Support ==
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp
Trygon Prime (1) - Containment Spines, AG, Synapse Creature, Shadow In The Warp

== Total ==
2000 pts.

[trygonprime]

Well i just finished the tournament. I play SM, DA Deathwing, and Tau.
My record was a draw[SM], DA {win}, Tau [Win].

Fun games all. The SM was a capture and control that end with us both with out scoring units by the end. I made a few mistakes like not charging a unit. Dumb move's on my part that cost me the win feel.


The DA i won playing kill points by two points almost tabled him. For some reason he full reserved. I killed him piece meal. He had had one termy and a landraider left on turn 6.

Faced a new tau player that never played vs tyranids. To say the lest it was not a pretty battle. He may start playing tyanids though. lol

I learned a few thing from the games i played. One that’s for most is to always attack with your genestealers. first game i for one or two units. I was kicking my self over that.

Second thing I learn was the tervagon does not fit my list at all. it was dead weight all three games. for the cost i could have had a Trygon and extra stealer.
Toxin sac are so worth there points.

The doom work well. first game lasted tell turn 5. in all the games she did her job.
They flyrant is ok need a gun though.

I think over all the list worked well, paint score killed me for placement but ok as i was just based sprayed on a few units. ( repainting my army)

I placed 18th out 46 with a maxed paint score like normally I would have been in 8th. Not to bad i say.

Thanks every one for the thoughts on my list.

[gdmnw]

Despite their much discussed online weaknesses, they always seem to do well by me.

They may not be as good as they have ever been but they sure do seem to rip stuff up once the soft stuff gets out of the cans...