1850 Chaos Marines

[L192837465]

Points are approximate because I thought this up at work:

Sorcerer lord: slaanesh, lash
Kharne
2x5 thousand sons, (no sorcerer (140 points for two shmos? f*** that!)), rhinos
10 chaos marines, 2 melta, champ w/pf
2x5 raptors, 2 melta, champ, pf, combimelta
5 raptors, 2 melta, champ, combimelta
2x7 havocs, 4x meltaguns, champ, pf, combi melta, 1 rhino
Greater deamon

Good? Bad? Hilarious?

Lemme hear it.

[thelion]

well not realy bad but what are you going to do whith karne and no zerkers? secondly the sorcers for the thousand sons while pricey is worth it (force wepon+ gift of chaos can be a riot trust me i use them to put down enemy indi char's they beat everything even the eternal warror rule!) lastly im not a big fan of 5 man sqds in csm lists they tend to get tore down by hord armys. but who knows i may be compleetly wrong and they may just tear the bord up. you def get points for being orignal!

[Chexmix282]

You actually have to take an aspiring sorcerer with a Thousand Sons unit; the unit size is 1 sorcerer and 4-19 thousand sons.

In my opinion the Raptors do not need champions. They cannot take Combi-weapons anyway, so your list is illegal. You are spending at least 40 points per champion which could be used to pay for the sorcerers on the Thousand Sons squads.

It really isn't an awful list, once you make it legal. Shoving marines in rhinos towards your opponents is never a bad thing.

This is how I would do it:

Chaos Sorcerer 125
-Slaanesh, Lash

Kharn 165

2 x 6 Thousand Sons 490
-Including Aspiring Sorcerer with Wind of Chaos and Meltabombs; Rhino

10 Chaos Marines 245
-2 Meltas, Champ with Fist; Rhino

3 x 5 Raptors 360
-2 Meltas

2 x 7 Havoks 440
-Champ with Fist, 4 Meltas; Rhino

1825

and you've got 25 pts left to spend. Personally, I would trade both Thousand Sons units for Chaos Marine squads identical to the one you have (10 + 2 meltas+ fist champ + rhino), giving you more bodies and far more flexible squads (same points for each unit). The remaining points can put Icons of Chaos Glory on the 3 CSM and 2 Havok squads, putting you right at 1850. So it would look like:

Chaos Sorcerer 125
-Slaanesh, Lash

Kharn 165

3 x 10 Chaos Marines 750
-2 Meltas, Champ with Fist and Icon of Chaos Glory; Rhino

3 x 5 Raptors 360
-2 Meltas

2 x 7 Havoks 450
-Champ with Fist and Icon of Chaos Glory, 4 Meltas; Rhino

1850

Hope that helps ;)

[L192837465]

I reworked it:

sorc, sla, lash
Kharne
2x6 Plague marines, 2x meltaguns, champ, powerfist, rhino
10 marines, champ, powerfist, 2x meltaguns
2x7 havocs, 4x meltaguns, champ, fist, rhino
2x7 raptors, 2 meltaguns, champ, fist

18 meltaguns! Bahahaha

[L192837465]

I think I actually managed to make this competitive:

Kharn
lash sorcerer
9TS; 1 asp sorc, warptime, rhino
5 Marines, meltagun, rhino
5 Marines, meltagun, rhino
7 Raptors, 2x melta, champ, powerfist
7 Raptors, 2x melta, champ, powerfist
7 havocs, 4x melta, champ, powerfist, Rhino
7 havocs, 4x melta, champ, powerfist, Rhino
Vindicator, deamonic possession

[L192837465]

Now I'm not sure what to do to boost up to 2000 for BOLS-con...

Options:

5 marines, melta, rhino
combi-meltas on 3 rhinos

Drop one of the havoc squads,
Land Raider
5 terminators

Drop one of the havoc squads, -220 points
add 5 marines and 4 marines to each squad: +135
2 champions: +30
2 Powerfists: +50
1 Meltaguns: +10
Vindicator, Deamonic Possession: +145

any other suggestions? I'm at a loss. I don't really want any weapon with a range over 24" because LULZ...

[celestialatc]

No, Combi-Meltas on the terminators? It's great for that extra punch when they jump out!

[L192837465]

I'd have to drop some 2 marines from an already tight army for 3 combi-meltas. I could drop one TS and pick up two instead though. Just idea. I'm starting to like the last option, 2 vindicators is super tough.

[Chexmix282]

Vindicators are such huge fire magnets that I would either take 3 or take none.

I always take 3 in my CSM list, simply because it meshes with Lash of Submission so well.

[L192837465]

Vindicators are such huge fire magnets that I would either take 3 or take none.

I always take 3 in my CSM list, simply because it meshes with Lash of Submission so well.

That's my figuring as well, but I don't want to drop my fire support squad. 4 meltas in a rhino is scary to any hard unit with good armour or any armour period!

I think my threats are even enough that I'll be able to get where I need to go quickly and with only a few disasters.

If they waste all their AT on my vindicators first turn, I'll be happy. They aren't the true killers in the army :p