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alshrive
05-10-2012, 06:26 AM
Hi all,
just workign on the startings of Necron army and have come up with the provisional list below. while i am not intereted in being Ueber-Competitive i want something with a bit of kick that will also be fun to play. anybody hints, tips or critiques will be much appreciated. So without further ado, let me present my list-
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HQ
Illuminor Szeras 100

Elite
Triarch Stalker 150
- Heat Ray

Troops
20 x Necron Warriors 260

10 x Necron Warriors 245
- Ghost Ark


Fast Attack
3 x Canoptek Wraiths 105

10 x Canoptek Scarabs 150

4x Tomb Blade 140
-Twin Linked Gauss Blaster
-Nebuloscopes
-Shield Vanes

Heavy Support
3 x Canoptek Spider 175
- One with Twin Linked Particle Beamer

Doom Scythe 175

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anybody got any thoughts on it?

ALShrive

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
05-10-2012, 06:36 AM
Personally, I'd swap the Doomsday Ark for an Annihilation Barge, I just find that it works better.
Make the 20 man Warrior unit 2x 10 Warriors so that you can capture more objectives, 2 troops in 1500 is very low.
I also wouldn't take Illuminor Szeras, he's a cool model but terribly lackluster.
Maybe drop a Tomb Blade so that you can take an Overlord with a Catacomb Barge and a Scythe.
The Tomb Blades don't particularly need Nebuloscopes either. (by having 3 you only need 1 box)

Hope this helps.

alshrive
05-10-2012, 07:08 AM
i wasnt taking a Doomsday Ark, did you mean the Doomscythe or the Ghost Ark?

i was debating taking Vargard Obyron instead as a HQ, as i actually believe he is quite viable on his own. I can drop a Tomb Blade and the Nebuloscopes & Shield Vanes, that frees up 80 points (60 of which will then be required for Obyron if i replace szeras).

i will field the warriors in units of 10 to enable me to capture objectives (potentially using Obyrons Mantle) to deepstrike a unit near them.

I am left with 20 points to spend, where can i put them?

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
05-10-2012, 07:18 AM
Hah! I read Doom and the points value and immediately came to the conclusion that it was a Doomsday Ark, my apologies.

With those 20 points extra you can remove the Doom Scythe and take 2 Annihilation Barges, which are pure gold!
Then with 15 points left over from that you can add Whip Coils and a Particle Caster to the Wraiths for wound allocation goodness.

Vashtek
05-10-2012, 08:00 AM
Hi all,
just workign on the startings of Necron army and have come up with the provisional list below. while i am not intereted in being Ueber-Competitive i want something with a bit of kick that will also be fun to play. anybody hints, tips or critiques will be much appreciated. So without further ado, let me present my list-
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HQ
Illuminor Szeras 100


Elite
Triarch Stalker 150
- Heat Ray

Troops
20 x Necron Warriors 260

10 x Necron Warriors 245
- Ghost Ark


Fast Attack
3 x Canoptek Wraiths 105

10 x Canoptek Scarabs 150

4x Tomb Blade 140
-Twin Linked Gauss Blaster
-Nebuloscopes
-Shield Vanes

Heavy Support
3 x Canoptek Spider 175
- One with Twin Linked Particle Beamer

Doom Scythe 175

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anybody got any thoughts on it?

ALShrive

Szeras can be a nice buff for a unit, and I presume you've taken him to buff the 20-strong warrior unit. 20 T5 resurrecting dudes could be fun... except that they can 't shoot when moving as you have no phaeron, you can't get them to where you need them to be because you have no veiltek and they're not even that durable without a resorb/ MSS lord.

My personal preference if you really want to use Szeras (and he's a nice model) would be to either take tesla immortals or take a big warrior unit with a phaeron. You can then also take a veiltek to teleport them about and get some real use out of them.

With the tomb blades, I'd keep them without any buffs and have a nice 5 strong unit for 100 points. You won't really get enough benefit from nebuloscopes/shield vanes to warrant 140 points for 4 dudes. The good thing about tomb blades is that they are cheap for what they can do. The particle guns are worth upgrading to, if you play a lot of infantry.

The Doom scythe is not great in your list as you have no nightfighting turns, so it's very easy for your opponent to blow it up. I wouldn't take it unless you are using at least one solar pulse and/or Imotekh and/or several other flyers.

alshrive
05-10-2012, 08:10 AM
ok so the list is now;

HQ
Vargard Obyron 160

Elite
Triarch Stalker 150
- Heat Ray

Troops
10 x Necron Warriors 130

10 x Necron Warriors 130

10 x Necron Warriors 245
- Ghost Ark


Fast Attack
3 x Canoptek Wraiths 120
- 1 w/ Whip Coils
- 1 w/ Particle Caster

10 x Canoptek Scarabs 150

3x Tomb Blade 60
-Twin Linked Gauss Blaster


Heavy Support
3 x Canoptek Spider 175
- One with Twin Linked Particle Beamer

Annihilation Barge 90

Annihilation Barge 90

what do we think? does that work better? defintely a nice mixture in their from a modellers/painters perspective so i can definitely be happy that it won't be get too monotonous, just hope it can hold up as a reasonable force in games.

ALShrive

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
05-10-2012, 08:18 AM
Yeah, I like that. A lot of variation in units, can potentially handle any situation, a load of AV13, and all the Scarab Farm you can hug!
The fun thing with Tomb Blades is turbo boosting them in the last turn and contesting an objective - that wins games!

alshrive
05-10-2012, 08:32 AM
the only thing i am now unsure on is that Triarch Stalker with Heatray- are they worth it? i mean i quite like the idea of potentially twin-linking everything else against a target but i cant decide whether it is worth it in points when i have 2 anni barges which will be pretty good anti-tank

ALShrive

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
05-10-2012, 08:40 AM
The Stalker kills Land Raiders though, I really would keep it. (plus, how gorgeous is the model!?!?!)

alshrive
05-10-2012, 08:43 AM
i must be honest i had only made the army list because of the wraiths, tomb blades, spyders and stalker! that is why they all feature! the fact that the force may work as well is an added bonus! i was including the scarab swarm as well as a tank buster, im figuring build up the unit size for 2-3 turns and then swamp the biggest piece of armour i can find, if they don't destroy it they should at least reduce its armour to something pathetic!

right, decision made, Stalker stays in and the list is finalised! Cheers for your help Dark Agent!

ALShrive

Tzeentch's Dark Agent
05-10-2012, 08:51 AM
right, decision made, Stalker stays in and the list is finalised! Cheers for your help Dark Agent!

http://www.gamer.ru/system/attached_images/images/000/348/761/original/Just_as_planned_tzeentch.jpg?1302179540



No worries, always glad to help.

Chumbalaya
05-10-2012, 08:52 AM
First off, Necrons without a Court is heresy. Obyron is decent enough in a fight, but with no invul or Fearless he's liable to get taken down by stronger enemies or get dragged down with his crappy escort.

A simple Overlord with warscythe in a Command Barge is only 20 points more, unlocks the greatness of the Royal Court and is no slouch himself. Decent statline, fast AV13 chassis and probably the most reliable AT in the army from sweep attack.

Beyond that, general redundancy is always a good idea. Double up on Stalkers, Arks and the like. Warriors are pretty bad without an Ark or Relentless, Immortals are more durable and work better in isolation. Don't rely on gauss too much, it's not the tank destroyer you think it is, more of a minor bonus. Scarabs are nice, but sinking them all into one unit is just asking for a one and done charge, popping a 35 point Rhino just to get caught out of position and wiped in one turn. 5-6 is plenty for a cheap throwaway unit, especially if you have Spyders.

Vashtek
05-11-2012, 05:14 AM
ok so the list is now;

HQ
Vargard Obyron 160

Elite
Triarch Stalker 150
- Heat Ray

Troops
10 x Necron Warriors 130

10 x Necron Warriors 130

10 x Necron Warriors 245
- Ghost Ark


Fast Attack
3 x Canoptek Wraiths 120
- 1 w/ Whip Coils
- 1 w/ Particle Caster

10 x Canoptek Scarabs 150

3x Tomb Blade 60
-Twin Linked Gauss Blaster


Heavy Support
3 x Canoptek Spider 175
- One with Twin Linked Particle Beamer

Annihilation Barge 90

Annihilation Barge 90

what do we think? does that work better? defintely a nice mixture in their from a modellers/painters perspective so i can definitely be happy that it won't be get too monotonous, just hope it can hold up as a reasonable force in games.

ALShrive

List is much better, though I'd lose 1 squad of warriors and probably some from another squad to get a squad of tesla immortals for obyron to teleport around with. They'll really benefit from the stalker, and be much more durable in CC, if you need to go in with obyron. Necron warrriors are pretty poor without a phaeron IMHO - immortals are much more durable and shooty for only a few more points.

alshrive
05-11-2012, 05:46 AM
i am looking at the option of dropping obyron and a few upgrades from the army to take a phaeron with a court of crypteks....... bring on lunch break and codex reading!