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Mike X
10-01-2009, 11:35 PM
The Cities of Death book reads (on page 39) that tank traps give a 5+ cover save.

However, the main rule book states (on page 21) that tank traps provide a 4+ cover save.

Which is it?

Abominable Plague Marine
10-01-2009, 11:45 PM
Cities of Death was written prior to 5th ed, hence the discrepancy.

Depends, if I was playing on a board already filled with 4+ cover terrain such as ruins and buildings, I would ask my opponent if they mind if we made tank traps 5+, just for some variety.

Mike X
10-02-2009, 12:11 AM
In my opinion, 5+ seems more logical and balanced.

I wonder why GW changed their thoughts on it...

Abominable Plague Marine
10-02-2009, 01:07 AM
Basically to streamline the cover save process, most things are now 4+.

BDub
10-02-2009, 05:03 PM
Basically to streamline the cover save process, most things are now 4+.

I always thought that had to be a CoD typo because ruins and rubble both give you 4+. But then I realized they were probably thinking of the type of tank traps that are like big jacks made from angle iron (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/40/Tank_trap_-_Alderney.jpg). And I think a lot of people are picturing the Dragon's Teeth type (http://www.lonesentry.com/photoalbums/314th_regiment_79th_inf/siegfried-line-dragons-teeth.jpg) of tank traps that are huge block of concrete, hence the problem. I would therefore suggest that if its the former use the 5+, if its the later kind, use the 4+.

I hope that helps.

Abominable Plague Marine
10-02-2009, 07:13 PM
Why not use both yeah, good idea. Its Cities of Death so I think could use a little more consideration toward the terrain. Ive played several games where the entire board is filled with buildings/ruins with a few streets thrown in for the vehicles. Makes for a really intense game.