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Unholy_Martyr
12-06-2009, 10:29 PM
I've been pushing around the idea for doing a Deathwing style army (just like everyone else has after they realized they could upon reading the codex) so I've put together this little mish-mash list. The idea is, first wave we have two Dreads come in with the two Heavy Flamer squads for the first turn, burning/popping anything that is an immediate threat to their existence. The subsequent pods go for other objectives/ kill off stragglers left over from the first wave. I realize that each squad has no clear purpose; however, this is intentional as this is a possible vanilla list for any enemy I may face. Also, the Plasma Cannon dreads are a dream for their point cost at dropping MEQ forces and mid-light armor. Finally, it is considerably lacking on range, and for that I'm toying with Twin-Linked Autocannons, Lascannons, or Cyclone Missile Launchers to balance this out.

2000 Pts - Space Wolves Roster

HQ: Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf ( 275 pts)
1 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf @ 275 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Belt of Russ; Terminator Armour; Wolf Tail Talisman; Wolftooth Necklace; Storm Bolter; The Axe Morkai; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack; Eternal Warrior; Independent Character; Living Legend; Stubborn; The High King; Saga of Majesty)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (257 pts)

1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack ( 330 pts)

1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Combi-Meltagun; Chain Fist; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist; Assault Cannon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack ( 325 pts)

1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Combi-Meltagun; Chain Fist; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist; Heavy Flamer; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Deathwind Missile Launcher)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack ( 325 pts)

1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Combi-Meltagun; Chain Fist; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist; Heavy Flamer; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Deathwind Missile Launcher)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 160 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 160 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Plasma Cannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 160 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 160 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Plasma Cannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 160 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 160 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Plasma Cannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Total Roster Cost: 1992

Comments as always are welcome so have at it folks!

Chumbalaya
12-07-2009, 07:58 AM
I think your WG units are too pricey. Mixing PAWG and WGT can give you more bodies, cut costs and give you more combi-meltas. 3 Termies and 4 PAWG work nicely. Termie heavy weapon, CF/SS, and combi-meltas on the PAWG. They can drop in, nuke a tank and take a punch while still maintaining assaulty effectiveness.

Big things a Drop Pod army needs to do are successfully alpha strike their opponent to keep him from retaliating or escaping. However, some armies can go into reserve and turn the tables on you. If this is the case, you need a way to limit the damage he can do and give yourself some mobility and range to keep from getting sped past and shot at from across the board with impunity.

Giving your WGT cyclones help big here, since you can fire on the move for an effective range of 54". As would dakka Preds or Speeders to come from your side and provide support. Tempest Fury is a huge way to shut down skimmer armies arriving from reserves.

You may want to try something like this:

HQ
Logan
Rune Priest-Tempest Fury, Murderous Hurricane, chooser

Elites
Dread-MM/HF, Pod (x2)

Troops
WG-3 WGT, heavy flamer, CF/SS, 4 PAWG w/ combi-meltas, Drop Pod
WG-3 WGT, heavy flamer, CF/SS, 3 PAWG w/ combi-meltas, Drop Pod
WG-2 WGT, heavy flamer, CF/SS, 4 PAWG w/ combi-meltas, Drop Pod
WG-1 WGT w/ cyclone, 4 PAWG (x3)

Fast Attack
Land Speeder-MM/HF (x2)

1957. You have your foot WG that can advance up providing cover fire or go into reserve and secure home objectives. The meat of your army drops in, does some damage, and can hopefully survive the inevitable counter attack. Speeders deploy or reserve/DS as appropriate.

Unholy_Martyr
12-07-2009, 12:38 PM
I may try the mixing of the PA with TA; obviously, this frees up points and allows more bodies, I was just wanting to go for a full-out Terminator force. I could cut out some big costs by dropping all of the Frost Blades and Melta Bombs, allowing me to take two Multi-Melta Speeders to harass any armor that decides to try and rail away at me. Also, I was toying with the idea of using the Dreadnoughts to take down armor at range with Lascannons/ Autocannons.

Chumbalaya
12-07-2009, 03:27 PM
Going all Termies is certainly a possibility, dropping all the superfluous gear is a good way to make them reasonable. A flamer or assault cannon and 3-4 combi-meltas with a CF/SS would work nicely.

Adding TLAC Dreads and MM/HF or Typhoon Speeders would help bust up armor at range and give you some extra mobility.

If you want to be really mean, drop Logan in with 6 Long Fangs, 5 multi-meltas, and a WG bullet catcher. 5 Tank Hunting MM that can split fire pretty much guarantees 2 dead tanks on turn 1. If they reserve, keep these guys in your secondary wave and give them a surprise nuking.

Unholy_Martyr
12-08-2009, 12:51 AM
Alrighty, here are two more incarnations of the list with suggested changes and a few flavorful ideas. First list is basically following the suggestions of cheaping out the Terminators and giving them some range. I keep two Heavy Flamer squads for hordes as they are inevitable, but I believe I have enough Melta to deal with any AV14 and the Dreadnoughts can deal with Vehicles at range or skimmers. The second list is only a minor revision of the original list, improving upon the long range firepower.

List #1
2000 Pts - Space Wolves Roster

HQ: Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf (1#, 275 pts)
1 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf @ 275 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Belt of Russ; Terminator Armour; Wolf Tail Talisman; Wolftooth Necklace; Storm Bolter; The Axe Morkai; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack; Eternal Warrior; Independent Character; Living Legend; Stubborn; The High King; Saga of Majesty)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (5#, 212 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 212 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 275 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 275 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Storm Bolter x1; Cyclone Missile Launcher; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 275 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 275 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Storm Bolter x1; Cyclone Missile Launcher; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 245 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 245 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Heavy Flamer; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Storm Shield; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 245 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 245 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Heavy Flamer; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Storm Shield; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Weapon x1; Combi-Meltagun; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 160 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 160 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Twin Linked Autocannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 150 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 150 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dreadnought CCW; Storm Bolter; Twin Linked Autocannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 160 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 160 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Twin Linked Autocannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)


Total Roster Cost: 1997

List #2:
2000 Pts - Space Wolves Roster

HQ: Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf (1#, 275 pts)
1 Logan Grimnar, The Great Wolf @ 275 pts (Unit Type: Infantry; Belt of Russ; Terminator Armour; Wolf Tail Talisman; Wolftooth Necklace; Storm Bolter; The Axe Morkai; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack; Eternal Warrior; Independent Character; Living Legend; Stubborn; The High King; Saga of Majesty)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (5#, 257 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 257 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 330 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 330 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Combi-Meltagun; Chain Fist; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist; Assault Cannon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 305 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 305 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Combi-Meltagun; Chain Fist; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist; Heavy Flamer; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Troops: Wolf Guard Pack (6#, 305 pts)
1 Wolf Guard Pack @ 305 pts (Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour; Drop Pod)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Combi-Meltagun; Chain Fist; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Wolf Claw; Wolf Claw; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Power Fist; Heavy Flamer; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Thunder Hammer; Storm Shield; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Wolf Guard in Terminator Armour (Unit Type: Infantry; Terminator Armour; Melta Bombs; Combi-Meltagun; Frost Weapon; Acute Senses; And They Shall Know No Fear; Counter-attack)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 175 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 175 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Extra Armor; Dreadnought CCW; Heavy Flamer; Plasma Cannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 165 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 165 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Extra Armor; Dreadnought CCW; Storm Bolter; Twin Linked Autocannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 185 pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 185 pts (Unit Type: Vehicle (Walker); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Extra Armor; Dreadnought CCW; Storm Bolter; Twin Linked Lascannon; Drop Pod)
1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

Total Roster Cost: 1997

The first list gives me another squad of Terminators to play with as well as 2 Cyclone Missile Launchers to buff out the Autocannons on the Dreadnoughts and the overwhelming amount of Melta in the squads. The second list is as I said with a few minor revisions like adding a T/L Autocannon and a T/L Lascannon

Chumbalaya
12-08-2009, 06:24 AM
Army Builder hurts my face :P

I like the first one, it's got firepower at range and up close. You may just want to give your Dreads dual TLAC to give them a dedicated shooty role. You can deploy them normally and throw empty Pods in if your opponent goes first. Also, a chainfist is superior to a thunder hammer, so since they cost the same I'd just go for the latter.