2000pt SM Tourney list

[Son of Guilliman]

well our local gaming club is hosting its first tournament, which is awesome. I wanna make sure i am bringin my a game, cause the braggin rights will be huge, and there is nothing like struttin your stuff in front of your friends. Anyway back on topic, i made a few changes to my normal tourney list and am wondering what ya'll think.
The typical competition;
SW
DA
Tau
SM
Eldar
CSM

the list

1 Kor'sarro Khan @ 160 pts
1 Space Marine Librarian @ 100 pts (...in Power Armour; Null Zone; Vortex of Doom)
4 Terminator Assault Squad @ 465 pts (Lightning Claws (pair) x2; Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x2)
. . 1 Sergeant (Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x1)
. . 1 Land Raider Redeemer (Extra Armor; Multi-Melta)

1 Dreadnought @ 150 pts (Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer)
. . 1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)
1 Dreadnought @ 150 pts (Multi-Melta; Heavy Flamer)
. . 1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

9 Tactical Squad @ 255 pts (Flamer; Multi-Melta; Drop Pod)
. . 1 Sergeant (Bolt Pistol; Power Fist)
. . 1 Drop Pod (Deathwind Missile Launcher)

4 Scout Squad @ 100 pts (Camo Cloaks; Bolt Pistol x4; Sniper Rifle x3; Heavy Bolter w/Hellfire Shells)
. . 1 Sergeant (Camo Cloaks; Bolt Pistol; Sniper Rifle)

9 Scout Squad @ 170 pts (Camo Cloaks; Bolt Pistol x9; Combat Blade x9)
. . 1 Sergeant (Camo Cloaks; Bolt Pistol; Combat Blade)
1 Land Speeder Storm @ 60 pts (Heavy Flamer)
1 Land Speeder Storm @ 60 pts (Heavy Flamer)

1 Vindicator @ 115 pts

1 Vindicator @ 115 pts

1 Thunderfire Cannon @ 100 pts

1995pts

the Dreads come in on turn one in opponents deployment zone and knock out transports/tanks, will prolly leave the storms in reserve and deepstrike them in order to keep them alive longer, they are my quick scoring unit. the sniper scouts sit on my obj and try to pin units, and the God Squad in the Redeemer go headlong into the belly of the beast. What ya'll think?

[karandras]

Are you outflanking the Redeemer and Vindicators? Otherwise, why bring Khan?

[Tynskel]

Are you outflanking the Redeemer and Vindicators? Otherwise, why bring Khan?

The Vindicators cannot outflank. ("All units in your army lose Combat Tactics special rule for the ability to outflank" Tanks do not have Combat Tactics) However, all Dedicated Transports CAN outflank when using Kor'sorro Khan.

I have always liked the idea of Terminators outflanking...

Khan also grants Furious Charge and Hit n' Run to the squad he's joined- that alone is worth his points combined with this weapon.

[Tynskel]

Hmmm...

I am not sure what you are doing with the Librarian with Vortex of Doom. Hv 1 Blast with 12" is hard to successfully pull off.

There is a point error too:
250 Tactical Squad
10 Marines (170), Powerfist (25), Flamer, Multimelta
Dedicated Transport: Drop Pod (35) w/ Deathwind Launcher (20)

not 255

To make your Librarian effective with Vortex, the Libby needs to be on a bike. However, a drastic change to the list must occur to pull this off...

I understand that you want two Drop Pods to come in on turn 1- which is why you have 3.

HQ 340
205 Kor'Sorro Khan
Kahn, Moondrakken
135 Librarian
Codicer, Space Marine Bike, Vortex of Doom, Null Zone

TROOPS 410
170 Bike Squad
5 Bikes, Combi-Melta, 2 Meltagun
100 Scout Squad
5 Scouts, 4 Sniper Rifles and 5 Bolt Pistol, Hv Bolter, Camocloaks
140 Scout Squad
10 Scouts, Bolt Pistols, Combat Blades (these guys are riding in the Storm, they don't need the Camos so much)

ELITES 765
150 Dreadnought
Dread, Hv Flamer, Multi-Melta
Dedicated Transport: Drop Pod
150 Dreadnought
Dread, Hv Flamer, Multi-Melta
Dedicated Transport: Drop Pod
465 Terminator Assault Squad
5 Terminators, 3 SSs and THs, 2 LCs
Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Redeemer w/Mulit-Melta, Extra Armor

FAST ATTACK 120
60 Land Speeder Storm
Storm, Hv Flamer
60 Land Speeder Storm
Storm, Hv Flamer

Hv SUPPORT 365
115 Vindicator
Tank
115 Vindicator
Tank
135 Thunderfire Cannon
Cannon, Techmarine
Dedicated Transport: Drop Pod

The Bikes can still claim- minimum number of 5 guys. Also, Kor'Sorro and the Codicer can be attached, making them a very effective lightning strike squad. Combined with Hit n' Run, they can escape combats they don't want to be apart of (and ZOOOOM away). Furious Charge will allow them to take on just about anything. The 3 Melta Shots and the Vortex will be powerful.

You still have 3 Drop Pods- you do not have to Drop Pod the Thunderfire Cannon, you can just have that appear somewhere. (Some people don't like this tactic. If that is a Serious problem, then I would change the Bikers: Drop the combi-melta, and take two flamers. Then upgrade the Drop Pod to a Deathwind Launcher). The Bikes can outflank, and same with the Redeemer!

[Son of Guilliman]

think i am gonna drop khan and go back to what i am used to, the hestan route. Basically the same tactics, just takin a little more sure fire AT. I know the camo cloaks on the storm scouts are kinda superfluous, but it ensures survivability of a 5 man squad in cover on an objective when the opponent is pourin his whole shooting phase into one squad trying to make me lose the obj.

2000 Pts

1 Forgefather Vulkan He'stan @ 190 pts
4 Terminator Assault Squad @ 450 pts (Lightning Claws (pair) x2; Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x2)
. . 1 Sergeant (Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield x1)
. . 1 Land Raider Redeemer (Multi-Melta)

1 Dreadnought @ 140 pts (Multi-Melta)
. . 1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)
1 Dreadnought @ 140 pts (Multi-Melta)
. . 1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

9 Tactical Squad @ 230 pts (Flamer; Multi-Melta)
. . 1 Sergeant (Bolt Pistol; Power Fist)
. . 1 Drop Pod (Storm Bolter)

4 Scout Squad @ 100 pts (Camo Cloaks; Sniper Rifle x3; Heavy Bolter w/Hellfire Shells)
. . 1 Sergeant (Camo Cloaks; Sniper Rifle)

4 Scout Squad @ 95 pts (Camo Cloaks; Bolt Pistol x4; Combat Blade x4)
. . 1 Sergeant (Camo Cloaks; Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Combat Blade)
1 Land Speeder Storm @ 65 pts (Multi-Melta)

4 Scout Squad @ 95 pts (Camo Cloaks; Bolt Pistol x4; Combat Blade x4)
. . 1 Sergeant (Camo Cloaks; Melta Bombs; Bolt Pistol; Combat Blade)
1 Land Speeder Storm @ 65 pts (Multi-Melta)

2 Attack Bike Squad @ 100 pts (Multi-Melta x2)

1 Vindicator @ 115 pts
1 Vindicator @ 115 pts

1 Thunderfire Cannon @ 100 pts

Total Roster Cost: 2000

[Tynskel]

I would get some Hv Flamers in there... re-rolling to wound Hv Flamers Rock!

If you can get 'em on the dreads or the Storms, that would be best.

[Son of Guilliman]

yeah, i originally had flamers on the dreads, may try to squeeze them in. ok dropped the MB's on the scouts and the heavy bolter in the scouts and put heavy flamers on the dreads