Blood Angels ARD BOYZ LIST/ crazy

[Duke]

Ok here it is, I was just laughing when I thought of this list.

HQ: Reclusiarch 130

Troops:
- Assault Squad: 305 pts.
- 5 men
- Land Raider Redeemer

- Assault Squad: 305
- Same

- Assault Squad: 305
- Same

-Assault Squad: 305
- Same

-Assault Squad: 305
- Same

-Assault Squad: 305
- Same

Heavy:
- Predator (Dakka): 100
- Autocannon, Hvy bolter sponsons.

-Predator (dakka): 100

-Predator (dakka): 100

Fast attack:
-Baal Predator 115
- Flamestorm

-Baal Predator 115
- Flamestorm

Total 2490

List in total:
6 Land Raiders (Redemmer pattern)
3 Dakka Preds
2 Baal Preds

That is essentially 11 Heavy support choices, lol

Thoughts and comments welcome... Obviously I was screwing around when I made this.

Duke

[Phairsto]

what happens when you have to kill another tank?

[codiddy]

I don't have a copy of the BA codex, but based off my regular space marine codex a 5 man assault squad with a land raider should be at least 340 points. Is something a lot cheaper in the BA dex?

[Duke]

Erm... Ummm... RAM! lol

Seriously though, by getting rid of one DAKKA pred and downgrading the Reclusiarch to a Librarian I could put Multimeltas on all the Land Raiders and Even buy some attack bikes or something.

[Duke]

I don't have a copy of the BA codex, but based off my regular space marine codex a 5 man assault squad with a land raider should be at least 340 points. Is something a lot cheaper in the BA dex?

In the Blood Angel Codex, Assault Squads get a 35 point reduction towards a "dedicated Transport." when they remove their jump packs. So, since Land Raiders are dedicated transports in C:BA they can take 6 of them for 205 pts.

Duke

[Duke]

NEW LIST
HQ: Librarian

Troops:
- Assault Squad: 315 pts.
- 5 men
- Land Raider Redeemer
- Multi Melta

- Assault Squad: 315
- Same

- Assault Squad: 315
- Same

-Assault Squad: 315
- Same

-Assault Squad: 315
- Same

-Assault Squad: 315
- Same

Heavy:
- Predator (Dakka): 100
- Autocannon, Hvy bolter sponsons.

-Predator (dakka): 100

-Predator 70
- Autocannon

Fast attack:
-Baal Predator 115
- Flamestorm

-Baal Predator 115
- Flamestorm

Total 2490

List in total:
6 Land Raiders (Redemmer pattern)
2 Dakka Preds
1 Autocannon pred
2 Baal Preds

That is essentially 10 Heavy support choices, lol

Thoughts and comments welcome... Obviously I was screwing around when I made this.

Duke

[Tynskel]

I don't have a copy of the BA codex, but based off my regular space marine codex a 5 man assault squad with a land raider should be at least 340 points. Is something a lot cheaper in the BA dex?

Assault squads taking off their jump packs get a 35 point discount on dedicated transports.

[Papa Nurgle]

Ok here it is, I was just laughing when I thought of this list.

HQ: Reclusiarch 130

Troops:
- Assault Squad: 305 pts.
- 5 men
- Land Raider Redeemer

- Assault Squad: 305
- Same

- Assault Squad: 305
- Same

-Assault Squad: 305
- Same

-Assault Squad: 305
- Same

-Assault Squad: 305
- Same

Heavy:
- Predator (Dakka): 100
- Autocannon, Hvy bolter sponsons.

-Predator (dakka): 100

-Predator (dakka): 100

Fast attack:
-Baal Predator 115
- Flamestorm

-Baal Predator 115
- Flamestorm

Total 2490

List in total:
6 Land Raiders (Redemmer pattern)
3 Dakka Preds
2 Baal Preds

That is essentially 11 Heavy support choices, lol

Thoughts and comments welcome... Obviously I was screwing around when I made this.

Duke

When I first read the codex, this is the first sort of list that came to mind. Deep Striking Land Raiders with scoring units FTW.

[Tynskel]

Duke,

You are on the right track for 'Ard Boyz.

6 Land Raiders should make anyone piss their pants. You are not screwing around when you suggest 6 Land Raiders--- you are thinkin' 'Ard Boyz. No One Can field 6 Land Raiders and still have points left over for an army!!

However, you need to be able to take on the Leafblower--- he simply has more tanks than you.

Some suggestions:

HQ 525
275 Sanguinor
The Exemplar
250 Mephiston
The Lord of Death

ELITES 250
125 Furioso
Dread, Blood Talons
125 Furioso
Dread, Blood Talons

TROOPS 1325
325 Assault Squad
5 Marines, Meltagun
Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Redeemer, Multi-Melta
325 Assault Squad
5 Marines, Meltagun
Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Redeemer, Multi-Melta
340 Assault Squad
5 Marines, Power Weapon, Meltagun
Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Redeemer, Multi-Melta
335 Assault Squad
5 Marines, Power Weapon, Flamer
Dedicated Transport: Land Raider Redeemer, Multi-Melta

Hv SUPPORT 400
200 Stormraven
Raven, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta
200 Stormraven
Raven, Twin-Linked Multi-Melta

Both Sanguinor and Mephiston have Chariots and Furioso Escorts. Those 4 units can do some serious ChOp cHoP!

This could probably be optimized even more.



Overall, I have been hearing good things with a mixed combined Baal/ Jump Assault Marine army- something might be worth checking into.

[Duke]

INteresting list tynskel, I agree that leafblower would be tough, just curious, what does leafblower brig that is good vs av14?

[Tynskel]

2 Vets squads in Valkyries, 3 Meltas each
2 Medusas
1 Mantacore

that's what I know, off hand- The Medusas have a good chance of destroying a Land Raider per turn. (48" Str 10, 2d6 Pen, AP1)

[synack]

If you are worried about that sort of back line, then simply take Dante with a Sang Guard squad and a priest. Give them all infernus pistols and slap 2-3 power fists in there too. With Dante in the squad they don't scatter, so you can literally drop them 3" from a high armour vehcile and watch a medusa or what ever go up in smoke. Then with the combined 2+ armour saves and then FNP added on top, I can't seem them dropping the squad very easily. If they do, they've just wasted a whole TURN of shooting to do so.

You can achieve the same result with a normal assault squad with 2 meltas. Only scattering 1-6", you have a good chance of being in range with the meltas.

So personally, I would deep strike at least 2 squads, maybe combat squad them into 2 tank hunters (melta) and 2 combat (power fist) + the dante guard squad.

[Papa Nurgle]

I'm thinking of running a list similar to this for 'Ard Boyz...only my strategy is to start everything in reserve so that my opponent has nothing to shoot at. Then I can start bringing the lascannons in from reserve and shoot at the Chimeras or other annoying vehicles. Then outflank Baal Predators with Flame Cannons to take on the stragglers.

Just a thought.

[Tynskel]

If you are worried about that sort of back line, then simply take Dante with a Sang Guard squad and a priest. Give them all infernus pistols and slap 2-3 power fists in there too. With Dante in the squad they don't scatter, so you can literally drop them 3" from a high armour vehcile and watch a medusa or what ever go up in smoke. Then with the combined 2+ armour saves and then FNP added on top, I can't seem them dropping the squad very easily. If they do, they've just wasted a whole TURN of shooting to do so.

You can achieve the same result with a normal assault squad with 2 meltas. Only scattering 1-6", you have a good chance of being in range with the meltas.

So personally, I would deep strike at least 2 squads, maybe combat squad them into 2 tank hunters (melta) and 2 combat (power fist) + the dante guard squad.

This sounds like a good idea, but remember your opponent will have Mystics to get a free shot at you-- which could wipe out that 250-400 points before they do anything.

However, deep striking is the way to go- get in close, blow open those tanks/transports.

I am thinking Heavy Support in a Deep Strike Blood Angels should be Mortis Dreads with autocannons- they are cheaper than in Space Marines! Drop Pod them in for good sights and the maximal cover from the pods.

[blueshift]

um s10 ordnance.. leafblower can blast away LRs... there's also a bunch of vets floating around. i think if the LRs could stick around long enough, they could do some serious damage to all those wimpy chimeras floating about