2 1500 pt lists

I have 2 lists i would like some input on.

HQ 1 Shrike
HQ 2 Master of the Forge with conversion beam and power weapon

Troop 1-2) 5 man scout snipers with cammo cloaks

FA 1) 5 man assault squad with power weapon and plasma pistol

Elite 1-2) 2 5 man TH/SS Terminator squads

HW 1-3) 3 Ironclad Dreadnaughts with 6 hunter killers


The second one is

HQ 1) Shrike
HQ 2) Master of the Forge with conversion beam

Troop 1-2) 5 man scout snipers with cammo cloaks

FA 1-2) 5 man assault squad with TH/SS

Elite 1) 5 man TH/SS Terminator squads

HW 1-2) Ironclads 4 hunter killer 1 heavy flamer

Both lists look compromised, you're trying to do too much at your points level and things just kinda bleh together.

You don't need the MotF, all your elites slots are open.

You need more Troops. If you want to drop 2 Ironclads on somebody's head in addition to infiltrating Termies, go nuts, just add a Tac Squad in a Pod and keep the Scouts. After that you can fit in an assault squad and/or some Speeders or more Scouts to support your assault.