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I have seen a few of these fun lists latley. What do you think?

Codex SM

HQ:

Librarian in terminator armor w /SS Null Zone and GoI

ELITE:

oops ;p Auto to Assault fixed

Based on the input recieved here is a revised list:

The TAC with the pod allows both Dreads to drop turn 1.

HQ:

Vulcan

ELITE:

1750

SM Codex

1. Vulcan and Libby attached to TACs.
2. Vulcan buffs all meltas and flamers to TL
3. Libby providing vital psi defense etc
4. Mechanized cover formation

HQ:

Correct no pods.

Using a heavily modified "Best of" plan with the LR Crusader and dreads covering the rhinos. Most likley 4 TAC units created on deployment. Half in rhinos, half following in...

Vulcan Get Sum Balanced TOURNEY variant 1750 w/ 1730 used

Codex SM

Most default weapons not listed.

1. HQ attached to asslt termies in Crusader Redeemer
2. Whirlwind hvy ordinance barrage...

Since Vulcan twin links flamers and meltas, does that apply to the Crusader Redeemer Flamestorm Cannon as well?

TKE you were right about the 1500 version being over 27 points, I found where I messed up.

In order to get the 27 points:
1. Swapped 120 point MotF for a 103 pt libby who will stay with one of...

A variation on 1750 armies is to drop one dred for the asslt termies. And Dreads are no slouches at CC. They dont kill fast but they keep em tied up and usually kill two models at strength 10 cc...

I also have a love for vinds but I dont know what I would do if I had a shooty type try to out range me.

It looks like only the black reach Dread has a multi melta. If you want to make those storm bolters heavy flamers instead, here is a conversion example:...

God I hate 1500 for codex SM... 1750 a whole new world.

Also, should we drop anything to get hvy flamers on the dreads or are they expected to be stunned a lot?

So im thinking:

HQ: ...

Looks like the latest AB says this army as posted is 1507. Did I miss 20 pts somewhere?

Also...you knew it was coming... what about swapping out the HQ to a non termie libby for the psi defense...

This list was originaly built by ****** and I dropped a TAC to make it fit into 1500.

It sems a different approach to my usual SG / Asslt Termie formula and seems to have promise.

His comments...

Its all moot now....looks like the AB bug report list has the allies filter on it.. was only supposed to allow demon/witch hunters for SM.

Hold on..looks like my Army Builder is showing a longer list of allies available than ard boyz rules allow.

ok, Im still playtesting my Pedro list but I thought of this last night:

1500

Special Info:
A. Libby attached to asslt termie on board turn 1 and moves within 30" of the Locator Beacon so on...

Verifying that Null Zone is cast at the beginning of the Librarian's shooting phase but is not a shooting attack and therefore frees him to use his shooting turn as per normal.

Looks like a serious list.. yow

Interesting point regarding the stern. very interesting.,..

Crazy terrain ville?? awesome comment.

That would give me enough to employ something like this:

Pedro attached to SG and Libby...

Yeah, the list was just a skeleton and based on input from several sources this is what was made from it:

Add assault termies and remove assault role from scouts... check
Add LR for termies.....

I have submitted a base 1500 Pedro build and was needing help filling it out from anyone who knows how to use him.

So far only 1015 points used

Balanced for a tourney would be optimal

HQ: ...

Yeah, ill probably need to:

Get that SG a rhino but that means I cant split it and I really need that firepower dispersed. I am imagining a Basilisk round hitting the whole squad..ugh

Sooo I...

Thanks for the input !!

Im having a hard time dropping the Lotd due to the 3+ invulnerabilty saves and their 2 attacks, relentless and DS scatter dice re-roll but I may have to reduce them due to...

Here is a general purpose 1500 Codex SM tourney army work in progress.

When reviewing, try to avoid changing it to the point that it cannot fight a certain race of enemy as it will lose its...