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I can confirm this as I just got back from my local store and got to look at the WD quickly. also only the warden has a datasheet in the WD, the gallant and crusader don't have a datasheet.

The original box is still available on the webstore. looks like they might be keeping that box and having a 2nd box for the new stuff. so you can get either of them.

Why is Eldyra in the book? Wasn't she turned into a goddess?
Ah. I've been waiting on this one. Eldyra's presence in The Lord of the End Times is what we, in the biz, like to call a '***** up.'...

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Rules for Caradryan, Tyrion, and Isabella Post #809

Archangels Sanguine Wing and the Flesh Tearers FOC imho are going to be the 2 most used from this book. picking mine up in about 10 hours.

that sucks, right FOC but the limitation of TDA just kills it. and wouldn't the 1st company have marines that fall to the Curse also. would have figured at least 1 DC squad.

P.S. No sanguinary...

that alpha legion one is very very nice.

wouldn't work 3 + Tiggie or 3 + a sang priest, you can't combine both characters. gotta remember that they take up 3 slots per centurion.

mephiston has a force sword, his own specific blessing WC1 for a str10 sword, he can hit on a 2+ if he rolls higher than the oponnets leadership on 2d6, 3w, 2+, S/T of a centurion. ML3. oh and most...

since Techmarines are in HQ, I wanna believe they are like DA/C:SM, 1 per HQ. here's hoping. looking like picking HQ's are gonna depend on what type of list you want to make.

EP, can sang priests take bikes/JP's, someone said they lost TDA.

as I own 23k in blood angels, if the storm isn't in, sounds like either 5 man razorback or 10 man melta/H Flamer rhino troops for me. so far I don't feel the book is as bad as the tyranid book felt....

Here's my Idea on what your had. not quite as many options but you have a flyer now for AA.

Wolf Lord w/bike, Fangsword (150)
Wolf Guard Battle leader w/bike, Frost sword (90)

4 Wolf Guard w/...

He is using the specific Formation from the main codex, so the units he has are what he HAS to take. the best we can do is help with special weapons/unit size/ transports.

you are lacking on Anti...

So ive got my 2k nemesis strike force list and a separate 3k list of all my Grey knight models. Hope to get a game next weekend with either list or both combined.

3k CAD
Grand Master, ML2,...

I have the models for list 1, list 2 I can get the new NDK and purifiers this weekend. otherwise I can't make any additional change's.

list version 2

Grand Master, Cuirass of Sacrifice, Soul Glaive, Psycannon

Purifier Squad(10), 4x Incinerator, 5x Halberd, Daemonhammer

Grey Knight Strike Squad(10), 2x Incinerator

Grey...

Thanks I want to build a 2nd purifier unit that has 5 halberds, 4 incinerators and a hammer, though I'm not sure that combat squading it would work. I can also swap out both librarians for a grand...

Using the Nemesis Strike Force, This is the list im planning on testing out using Maelstrom Missions.

every squad but the purifiers will combat squad, increasing the amount of units and WC's. The...

theres one thing forgotten about Strike squads, Deep strike. I know they don't seem the best option compared to the survival/abilities of terminators, but as cheep 5 man reserve units, they have...

The land raider/ storm raven/ venerable dreadnought are just new boxes. I hope the rules are worth the book, cause this release seems like a real letdown.

decided to go looking at the venerable dreadnought kit under the space marine tab on the GW site. The new Grey Knight venerable is the same kit. just a reboxing.
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looks like the stormraven, land raider, venerable are just reboxing's. nice to see that assassins have a dataslate. didn't like them myself in the GK codex.

After spending the weekend looking at the new Space Wolves Codex and going through multiple possible lists, this is the one im thinking of building first.

any comments welcome.

Harald Deathwolf...

if true Dreadknights become 180 for a heavy incinerator and teleporter. YES please.