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    I think that the question 'you wanted to ask' in...

    I think that the question 'you wanted to ask' in itself is incorrect. And in any case, it does more than Shrouding.



    MARK of Nurgle is for CSM (p30 CSM codex). It gives models +1 T (it cant be...
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    Fluffy but illegal list unless unbound (?). ...

    Fluffy but illegal list unless unbound (?).
    There is no painboy in the formation, so you need a full allied detachment (another troop) or CAD (another 2 troops) to bring one.
    But even as stands as...
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    If you take Pedro as a HQ choice in a SoT...

    If you take Pedro as a HQ choice in a SoT detachment you are running a space marine army with the chapter tactic Imperial Fists. p77 SM codex paragraph on successor chapters basically says that all...
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    If youre taking eldar assault options youre...

    If youre taking eldar assault options youre really going to have to make some tactical decisions to make proper use of them. You might have to start skipping shooting phases or something, or give...
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    p121 of my SoT book says that all units in a...

    p121 of my SoT book says that all units in a Sentinels of terra detachment use chapter tactics (Imperial Fists), all they do is replace the bolter drill with close range bolter drill.

    p77 of SM...
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    Needs a hammer in each termie squad, interceptors...

    Needs a hammer in each termie squad, interceptors can take two incinerators, one hammer for the libby, and a pintle melta on your raider. Thats probably your 70 gone.

    You will not regret spending...
  7. CD Khorne Herald cant join CSM Possessed with...

    CD Khorne Herald cant join CSM Possessed with mark of Khorne (not Daemon of...)
    CD Khorne Herald cant join CKD Berzerkers (not daemon of...)
    CD Khorne Herald can join CKD Bloodletters
    CKD Khorne...
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    Autocannon / Fist or Twin autocannons are my...

    Autocannon / Fist or Twin autocannons are my second favorite loadout for GK dreadnought

    My first favorite is to make the "NOU" a "KNI" ! Sadly GW has been overcosting dreadnoughts for years.
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    First thought. If you made it double CAD with a...

    First thought. If you made it double CAD with a Daemon troop choice you get to run Daemon primary and get the warp storm table for free (-1 cultists +1 Nurglings?).

    Second thought. Its all khorne...
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    Nice bread and butter to start from there - and...

    Nice bread and butter to start from there - and IMO you have picked a great fun army to start with. Less models, easier to paint, store, manage transport, and they can be totally boss when used...
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    The strike squads and termies are both solid...

    The strike squads and termies are both solid troop choices.
    Psychic Termies at 165 per squad with ObSec are very survivable and A LOT more cost effective than other marine books.

    BUT I am all...
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    Dont see why not. Not considered it before... At...

    Dont see why not. Not considered it before... At 30pts might be pricy for unpredictable perks, compared to giving greater gifts from the daemon book.
    Probably best combo'd with Tzeentch (the 3++...
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    That would assume that it is the 'anti grav...

    That would assume that it is the 'anti grav system' and not the skimmers movement ability that allows it to dodge incoming fire.

    (I still don't see that logic)
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    Can an immobilised skimmer Jink?

    As it says on the tin:

    Can an immobilised skimmer Jink?

    I can't see anywhere that says not. If that's the case:

    How dumb is that?
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    http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.p...

    http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/showthread.php?48639-Overwatch-from-a-Thunderfire-Cannon

    Having heard both sides I can see why there is confusion but for me RAW is one gun over watch per...
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    On HELCULT formation Where do you get the...

    On HELCULT formation

    Where do you get the understanding from that the Helcult cultists lost ObSec?

    IIRC formations dont change the battlefield role and as long as your list is still Battle...
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    Slaanesh is arguably the WORST mark you could...

    Slaanesh is arguably the WORST mark you could give them, completely useless in all combats against anything not I3/4/5, including any vehicles - expensive waste of points, unless your meta contains...
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    +1 Unless you are in a kill point heavy...

    +1

    Unless you are in a kill point heavy weighted mission pack 5 pack Lootas is the way to roll. Even in KP heavy they still put out consistently good firepower if your aim is tabling the opponent...
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    I'm pretty satisfied at this point that all...

    I'm pretty satisfied at this point that all overwatch is one gun only. Thanks to everyone for the hearty debate!

    Whilst I appreciate the length of yours stonehorse (and others') analyses, you are...
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    I'm also adding two further points in here,...

    I'm also adding two further points in here, because my reading of the MC and GUNSLINGER rules is that they both also say may fire 2 weapons in the shooting phase (both also specifically say in the...
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    Nope he is not shooting the TFC on overwatch but ...

    Nope he is not shooting the TFC on overwatch but he is wanting to fire the gunners equipped weapons, BOTH the TL plasma cutter (s7 AP2) and then also wanting to do the wall of death with the flamer...
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    Overwatch from a Thunderfire Cannon

    An odd one that has cropped up before with us (usually gets rolled off!) but it came up again in our game yesterday and a quick google couldnt find a definitive answer on how to resolve Overwatch...
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    Ah I had been looking at wolf lord only, who does...

    Ah I had been looking at wolf lord only, who does get the discount

    “Wolf Lord in Terminator armour may only take items from the Terminator Weapons, Special Issue Wargear and/or Relics of the Fang...
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    Am I reading the wrong page here? If you're...

    Am I reading the wrong page here? If you're looking at space wolf terminators then The frost blade is a discounted option for terminators who replace their power weapon:

    “A model wearing...
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    Thanks, clears it up. We had difficulty because...

    Thanks, clears it up. We had difficulty because it talks about not counting weapons without ammunition, and nowhere mentions that a CC weapon can be counted...

    Would have been better if the BRB...
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