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Yep this. ^

The idea that a weaker game system somehow benefits "casual" or "fluff" players boggles the mind. Writing a rule set in a competitive game (which is what 40k is by simple definition...

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The fact that you can employ such a sentence means your local meta must be staggeringly different that mine.
Local to me assulty lists make up a quarter or less of the total lists...

From over here, the magic words are
so every special rule containing the above applies to units containing ICs as long as any single model in the unit (IC, character, or standard) has the special...

Were it me (and my way certainly isn't the only option here by any stretch ;) ) I'd go with a sans Stormraven list first and modify as/if needed after a few games.

IMO this does two things which...

Are there any you're aware of which don't contain the "magic" ...any unit that contains at least one model with this special rule... phrase? I'd hate to overlook any possibilities both for list...

Thanks for the response :) I've been trying to bring my 13th Company (Space Wolves) out of retirement more or less ever since they were rendered obsolete by the new rules. Being able to use an IC...

I started playing with 13th Company and while I'm not going to complain about the updated codex for Space Wolves I do miss playing my first army. With the advent of 6th ed. I've decided to give...

So I just wanted to check that I'm reading this correctly does 6th edition really allow an IC that joins a squad to confer the benefits of rules like Stealth, Stubborn, Outflank, etc. upon units that...

Wolfshade has the right of it, units embarked upon dedicated transports count as a single unit, hence if your dedicated transport is required to start in reserves (as in the case of both pods and...

I'm seriously looking at the idea of running a deep striking/jetpack DC in my upcoming lists in light of the changes brought to us by 6th ed. I am however a total BA novice and was wondering if any...

Thunder Wolf Cavalry are looking pretty good too :) Rending + Cavalry + Hammer of Wrath :cool:

True, however it also doesn't count toward the number of models held in reserve, fliers, pods, spores et al that must begin in reserve aren't included in the unit tally for reserves (in essence...

My selection of TDA isn't really for the weapons. If I could take it w/o the load out for fewer points I'd do it sure :p but really it's so I have a 2+ save and then a 4+ save making my one man unit...

Leaving aside the likelihood of this ever actually happening :p I'd love to see these lists updated to current (even if it was just for Apocalypse or some such). I got into 40k for/with 13th Co. and...

Any Wolf Guard may replace his CCWep and/or Pistol with a combi- flamer, melta or plasma for 5pts
[I only listed the Combi weapon upgrades]
So in theory you could take two combi-weapons with one GW...

Here's what I've been playing/playing around with at the 2k point level. So far positive results performance / win wise.


Balanced

This list is built to be deceptively assault heavy. There...

Which is why this won't be settled until theres a faq/errata out to clear it up. Editing applies just as much to things like placement of sentences and structure of chapters/paragraphs/sentences.
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@ YmirThanks for the effort, tho as you can see the debate continues. And while I'm interested in the debate on an abstract level (yes I'm crazy I actually entertain myself trying to pin down...

Quite welcome mkerr, I do enjoy these types of threads (with or without a resolution/consensus) because they're good for mental exercise and rules comprehension. I think that playing multiple armies...

Which would then make them incompatible with the use of a Thunderwolf mount and/or joining a unit of Thunderwolf Cavalry?

Feel free to ignore the below as it is semi-off topic :o

Nice job Oni :)

Scenario #1
Seize Ground: 5 Objectives placed in the same configuration as pips on a dice (one in each quarter and one in the center.
Deployment Pitched Battle.
Scoring: Each objective held 4...

Then there's the Lone Wolf to consider, and while he doesn't have the IC issues there are questions like majority armor saves, Weapon Skill, and Feel no Pain.
The Wolves take off if the fig they're...

Agreed, tho I do wonder about things like majority Toughness (probably not an issue) and the wolves given up an extra kill point (which if I'm remembering correctly they actually do ...tho I'd love...

Yup, I use this a lot on my hit-and-run daemon prince to take bites out of things like Tyrant Guard w/o having to assault into a full strength unit... massed gaunts can be used as cover in more than...