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the 2+ is to help keep stray wound off of the lord, plus 15 points for that sort of upgrade is cheap

I think that 2+/ 3++ Overlord with warscyths are going to be a staple in most lists. This build has the same Toughness and save as Drago, plus 2 strength and reanimation protocal. All for less then...

ah that makes more sense. The combat drugs on the archone really has a 1/2 of getting a truly useful result if your not counting the + 1 WS. Your right that the blast pistol rarely effective but I...

sorry the lack of unit size comes from me clipping from my army list which has points with size. example being 2x 20pts =40 total. Ill change that right now.

as for your suggestions im confused...

Here is the list I plan to take to ard boyz

Dark Eldar 2497 Points

HQ
Asdrubael Vect
Archon
Agoniser
Blast Pistol
Shadow Field

Yeah after some thought i agree with you on the vect issue, and I am planning on adding nets to the wyches.

thanks for the response

yeah the trueborn only have 4 blasters. I keep the extra guy in there to abosorb a hit and keep the pts clean.

I had not considered putting the warriors in a boat as...

here is my list for an upcoming tourny

HQ
Asdrubael Vect

Archon
Agoniser
Blast Pistol
Shadow Field
Combat Drugs

I see your point however I would like to point a couple of things out. I think you missread something as I have 14 lances not 10. Whle not hugely groundbreaking that's not as shaby as you said....

Here is what I plan to bring to a local tournament

Baron Sathonyx
Asdrubael Vect
5 incubi
Raider dark lance, night shields flicker field X 4 (for wyches incubie with vect, and 10 man warrior...

Genestealers are mainly used for outflaking and backline tank attacks with rending. Gaunts are really their for Tervigons and scoring purposes. Hormagaunts are used for their speed and cheapness.

While agree on most of your points I feel your not entiraly correct. My biggest gripe with your explanation is your troop choice review. Other than rippers which are completly useless thanks to their...

I'm sorry forgot we had a fantisie sectoin

Well if you only look at the negative aspects then yes they have been nerfed, but me who's less of a pessimist would like to point out the positive side of things.

1. Toxic misma will kill hords...

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Hey guys. So I got to do a little light bug related Codex reading today ^.^ I know you...

Hey just checked out GW website. Currantly they have found some space hulk boxes in the back of their werhouse and are selling them for regular price. You might want to check this out if you don't...

I not to fond of the list. Yes you will be able to be in their face right off the bat. Yes your firepower is formible. But honestly 10 tac marines. In 2/3 missions all your oppenent has to to do to...

I'd have to agree with MVbandit not because rending is bad (which it's not) but because athought 3 points don't make much of an point impact on a high point modle (ie most any modle over 15 points)...

This is a good list but it lacks troops. In my expirence while haveing maxium super units looks scary, it lacks strengh in 2/3 missions. Sure you might whittle an oppnent down to a tac squad, but...

You might also want to consider moving this thread to the armylist section of the forum

I personaly like The TH/SS option. While sure these lone wolves won't be able to do much to a Landraider they still will do just about as fine agnist regular veichals and walkers. But, while vehicals...

Vanguard vets! The modles are awsome and a large unit of theis guys are just so awsome.

After I glanced over some rumor prices at spme formums I saw that the Trygon was listed to be 50$. If this is true then their is little doubt that the trygon will actully be in the codex as it is the...

I have a question about sammel. I know people generally perfer him in his land speeder but he really isn't that bad on his jetbike. He is the only speeder like modle that can wield a Plasma...

Wait why can't the plague marines claim any objectives? They are still troops aren't they?