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That has to be incorrect. that would mean that he becomes the worst model in the game. and doesnt actualy work (see his special rules)

Eel is right. An exo Ok n a quad is a waste. If you want a quad gun use a venom of zoan to shoot it

yeah skyblight hard counters knight spam

the abillity to take 3 flyrants, 4 crones, 2 harpies and still have up to 90 scoring gargs that COME BACK!!! Yeah that list doesn't care if your running 5...

its not so much the gargoyles that I'm too worried about its anything within walked pie plate range

Stomp!

and even worse they can walk those stomps outwards to higt units they aren't even in combat with

the best tactic seems to be surround them with gants but DON'T charge, force him to move.

The faq adresses the basic rules it doesnt override the rules for vehies on pg 76

You still need to cast deny and so on. Two are unlikely to explode I think youll need three to even get through the shield. There's a long discussion on the hive about it. Gyst is that the best we...

Lance does work on super heavies. Entropic doesnt.

The rrouble with zoeys is to position them so that they arent firing through the shield. Hard to do wirh only 3 units

unfortunately we're about to get knight boned.....there is very little in our book that is even remotely effective to those things.

You can't tarpit them as they stomp, and throwing any MC against...

on a 4+ yeah

which means they can come back through the tunnel :D

If the rumours concerning the new endless swarm dataslate are accurate however the Trygon tunnel is going to see a surge in use thats for sure.

but not for the pyrovores.

sure can, but the trygon tunnel is largely un-usable anyway

personally my take on the prime is that whether you take one or not depends more on the unit you want to put him in than on the prime itself. Are you running warriors, then yes the prime has a place...

thing with primes compared to tyrants is you get
+2W +1T +1S +1I +2WS +2Ml and Ap2 with smash.....all for 40 pts extra.

I mean a primes what, TWICE the points of a chaos lord.......before gear....