Perhaps if you were to read my very first post in the thread?
"While there is nothing that says units that can fire at targets without LOS can fire beyond the 36", I think there is sufficient...
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Perhaps if you were to read my very first post in the thread?
"While there is nothing that says units that can fire at targets without LOS can fire beyond the 36", I think there is sufficient...
That would be fine if that was what the rule says but it doesn't.
Night Vision says you ignore the effects of Night Fighting however, perhaps significantly, the searchlight rules merely prevent an...
Yeh I get that but your units also have no clue where the opponents are when they are out of line of sight.
And those very ordinary rules of logic say to me that a unit hidden by terrain or darkness can be targeted by units that have the ability to shoot what they can't see.
No because the Tervigon Spawns IN the movement phase before it has moved, not "at the start of the movement phase" which is when Psychic powers are resolved.
There is no "actions at the same time"...
I see that as a double standard.
In one instance the 36" cannot be passed when it is logical to assume that firing out of LOS is the same as selecting a target that is hidden, yet we are quite...
Expressing an alternate point of view is not trolling as far as I am aware.
Everyone else on these forums seem to be able to control their reaction to my "appalling" habit of expressing a point of view.
They are also able to disagree with me without resorting to lame...
Although the GoI occurs prior to the movement phase technically commencing, because a unit that uses GoI is Deep Striking and the act of deep striking counts as having moved in that movement phase.
Consistency is the key in all things.
You can't dismiss the "flavour" in one instance yet rely on it in another.
You either accept that in Night Fight no unit an select a target beyond 36"...
The same logic that allows units who can fire without Line of Sight to pick targets beyond 36" would also allow units to pick targets beyond 36" that are illuminated.
We can't pick targets beyond...
yep well definitely those ones will be as per the codex in each case as they are tied into the "balance" of the Codex within itself.
There are a few special rules that have the same name but...
The article specifically mentions Warhammer tho'
"The game is a forerunner of modern formats like the Warhammer system sold by Games Workshop."
What it comes down to, the area of doubt is :
Page 12:
Choose (aka pick) a Target The unit can shoot at one enemy unit it can see.
which ties into the qualification from Page 124 that a target...
So a Barrage weapon is completely unaware of a unit 37" away in the darkness in open ground yet can be fully aware of a unit 200" away in a ruin that has no windows and is behind 2 forests, 6...
We don't have to ask why a shooting unit cannot pick a target beyond 36" tho' we are told why, because "such units are completely hidden in the darkness"
They don't say you can't fire they say you cannot pick a target because it is hidden. Hidden would mean out of Line of sight.
Picking a target is the fundamental first step of the Shooting Phase...
The amendment to the Grey Knight Purgation Squad's Astral Aim power, which allows the unit to fire on targets out of Line of Sight, means it can now ignore the stealth and shrouding effects of night...
You'd pretty much expect to go with the particular ruling in each Codex I'd think, do you have an example of where this has happened ?
Even in a Skirmish order style of fighting is individual camouflage particularly important? Conflicts as recent as Vietnam, in close jungle fighting conditions, still only saw camouflage used by...
Thing is the real life of camo-ing up and hiding behind a tree has only been a part of warfare since the 1930's.
Who knows how things will change in the next 38,000 years and it's quite likely to...
I'm with Nab. I think there are enough exceptions to the "considered part of the unit at all times" clause for IC's to say they are considered a separate unit in this instance, despite being attached...
Only if they swim out and bring the downed FMC back.
Even betta !!!!! ('cept they are BS0)
Yep because totally silent forums with no posts are far better than an active community that swaps views and information free of scorn.