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    "Sorry, that was a typo, yes as I have said a...

    "Sorry, that was a typo, yes as I have said a number of times counts-as, as-if etc words which are replacing things they assume the properties, that is a none issue."

    That's Done.


    I am...
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    You need a citation for that, because I have one...

    You need a citation for that, because I have one that says you have replaced the movement rules with Infantry rules, and the Impassable refers to vehicle movement.


    This is why I have always...
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    "As-if, counts-as, etc are not the same as using...

    "As-if, counts-as, etc are not the same as using the rules as stated elsewhere."
    Incorrect. As I said. Look at the FAQs for 6th, 5th, and 4th. Every single time this has come up, GW has ruled to...
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    You are not getting my point! GW uses different...

    You are not getting my point!
    GW uses different language every single time.
    That's why I said:

    look at the Black Sword Entry for Space Marines
    Look at the Tyrant Guard Entry for Tyranids...
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    no, look at the Tyrant Guard Entry— as if it were...

    no, look at the Tyrant Guard Entry— as if it were an IC. That means go to the IC section and apply the IC rules—for this action. You replace the rules. (check out the FAQ for 5th Edition)

    And...
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    Ugh. look at the Tyranid Tyrant Guard entry, as...

    Ugh. look at the Tyranid Tyrant Guard entry, as it uses 'as if'—'counts as' is a catch all term—and the FAQ rules in favor of 'counts as'. In every instance this has occured the FAQs have ruled...
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    I have cited multiple examples of 'counts as'. ...

    I have cited multiple examples of 'counts as'. You replace the rule. Tank Trap Impassible for vehicles. Impassable is for movement. So Vehicle Movement is stopped. Walkers are not vehicles when...
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    Yes. You gain the primaris power of a discipline...

    Yes. You gain the primaris power of a discipline if you select all of your powers from the same discipline.

    Zoanthropes get 2 powers—they come with Warp Blast. They get another. And then, for...
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    I am glad you are coming over to my side, because...

    I am glad you are coming over to my side, because you are saying that the walker 'counts as' infantry! Of which, at *any* other instance in the game—seriously, look up FAQs and other rules, like the...
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    That would work, if there was a section in the...

    That would work, if there was a section in the Infantry rules that stated so. That's not the case, so that's not Rules As Written. Additionally, I've already stated this: GW has done this with...
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    Not a bad idea. - - - Updated - - - You...

    Not a bad idea.

    - - - Updated - - -



    You bring up a good point.
    You can combine types, and there are many instances of combining types. However, that works until you combine with...
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    What?!?!? Walker, for example, is *explicitly*...

    What?!?!?
    Walker, for example, is *explicitly* defined in the 40k Rulebook!
    There's no written rule, in real language, that requires a glossary. Glossaries are to help the reader, but they are...
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    Again, trigger word. Tank Trap. Impassable...

    Again, trigger word.

    Tank Trap. Impassable for Vehicle.
    Look up Impassable. Cannot move onto.
    Look up Move
    Walker. Walker move as Infantry.
    Look up Infantry. Not vehicle.
    Attempt to move...
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    *Why* are you taking the thread off topic?

    *Why* are you taking the thread off topic?
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    I have given 3 examples. Crimson Slaughter...

    I have given 3 examples.
    Crimson Slaughter Possesed.
    Tyrant Guard
    Black Sword.

    The phrasing is different but the effect is *exactly the same*.

    They all do: a = b = c. This is simple logic....
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    This is rules as written. The 'counts as'...

    This is rules as written. The 'counts as' convention is a written rule. The phrasing is slightly different, but it uses, 'as if', 'choose', etc.
    They all mean the same thing.

    This is also...
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    I wouldn't diss GW over this. Making a ruleset...

    I wouldn't diss GW over this.
    Making a ruleset that is fluid is difficult.

    Ridged rulesets are fantastically boring.
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    I see what the problem is. You don't have the...

    I see what the problem is. You don't have the rules, and are expecting someone to spend money for you an hopefully not mistype something. Nope, I'm not going to sit here and type out copyrighted...
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    Please stop with the personal attacks, because...

    Please stop with the personal attacks, because they are unfounded, and not true.

    Marful:
    I *did* cite rules from the book. Stop saying I am not using citable rules.

    All of the examples I have...
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    ??? The Crimson Slaughter—you are replacing...

    ???

    The Crimson Slaughter—you are replacing Elites with Troops. That's what 'counts as' is. You are taking an entry that says one thing, and adding a different entry. That's how it always has...
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    As for the Super Heavy Walker 'move through...

    As for the Super Heavy Walker 'move through cover' vs 'ignore terrain'. The Ignore Terrain *never* made sense. You are going to tell me that a building the same size as the Super Heavy Walker *does...
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    Forum Rules Rule!

    I disagree.
    The moderators are not consistent in their application of the rules.

    You can look at the time stamps, and the forum history. I was the only one banned from BoLS. Yet, I was far...
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    Alright, I am being bombarded by a lot of...

    Alright, I am being bombarded by a lot of responses, so I am answering everything here.

    1) The rule quotation on Walker movement: That is an example of 'counts as'.
    One is replacing one set of...
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    Ah, well, since the moderators closed the thread,...

    Ah, well, since the moderators closed the thread, but allowed this one (which is the same argument from before), I'll take it as a signal that I may contribute to this discussion.

    "Counts as", has...
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    This is getting off topic. I can start a...

    This is getting off topic.
    I can start a different thread.
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