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4 las cannon shots can possibly kill the oblits, but wont even kill half of the havocs. They all have the same T4. makes them easier to kill, also the total wounds is more in the havoc squad. But...

drop the heavy flamer from the dreadnaught and give assault cannons to your land speeder storms. Increases their weapons output without affecting their movement. Also gives you some light armour...

list can't be used with FoC, too many Land Speeder Storms.

In my 1k and 1.5k lists for this force, they are in a rhino with extra armour and dozer blade. For this size, I figured a land raider offered them better chances of survival to ensure they get to...

was just looking for some feedback on what everyone thinks, be it good bad or indifferent, ways to improve either its killyness or fairness.

I really though that in two days I would get atleast one comment, but apparently not.

Looks like the goggles from space marine Scout Snipers.

Lucius - 160
Sorceror with MoS, Familiar, Lash and WoC - 160

Noise Marines x9 - NC, Power Weapon, Doom Siren, Meltabombs, Sonic Blasters x8, Land Raider, EA and DB - 510

CSM x 10 - AC, PW, MB,...