Friend Starting Ork Army, Need Advice

[blackarmchair]

Hey all,
I'm getting a friend back into 40k and he's pretty dead-set on starting Orks. I know an awful lot about killing Orks but not too much about making a list.

All we've decided on is that we'd like to write a 2000pt list, he really likes Ghazghkull and wants to include him and that a more mechanized force is desirable.

Any ideas anyone with some experience has are welcome

Thanks!

[incenerate101]

Well my secondary army is orks but i know nothing of mechanized orks i like to run the general horde of green blobs. but no matter what he does make sure he balances his CC with his Ranged Combat. I find it essential to any horde armies success. Hope i helped out.
- Incenerate

[Nungunz]

Mechanized orks with lots of trukks tend to fail miserably so you'll probably be looking at battlewagons (always add at least 1 gun to avoid auto-immobilzed, but don't go overboard) loaded with shoota boyz(more efficient than sluggas) and Nobz (as an escort for Gaz). Don't forget to add at least 1 powerklaw to each mob.

A KFF Mek would help out with cover saves.

Lootas are gods-awful scary. Throw 20-30 of them in a list and stuff starts dying left and right.

Deff-Koptas with Rokkits can keep up with the wagons, scout, can provide some nice AP3 support, and contest objectives.

Throw up a list and we'll see how we can help out.

[blackarmchair]

Not 100% sure how to proceed. My experience with actual list-building is limited to imperial/chaos armies so forgive any faux pas I've made.

Also Ghazghkull is too expensive if you ask me...

Advice please.

+ Mad Dok Grotsnick [160]

+ Lootas [150]
- 10x Lootas

+ Meganobz [225]
- 5x Meganobz with Cybork Bodies
+ Battlewagon [130]
- Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, 2x Big Shootas

+ Ork Boyz [170]
- 1x Nob with Power Klaw & Bosspole
- 19x Shoota Boyz; 2x Big Shootas

+ Ork Boyz [170]
- 1x Nob with Power Klaw & Bosspole
- 19x Shoota Boyz; 2x Big Shootas

+ Ork Boyz [152]
- 1x Nob with Power Klaw & Bosspole
- 11x Boyz
- Trukk with Red Paint Job

+ Ork Boyz [152]
- 1x Nob with Power Klaw & Bosspole
- 11x Boyz
- Trukk with Red Paint Job

+ Deffkoptas [135]
- 3x Deffkoptas with Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas

+ Deffkoptas [135]
- 3x Deffkoptas with Twin-Linked Rokkit Launchas

+ Battlewagon [135]
- Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, 3x Big Shootas

+ Battlewagon [135]
- Deff Rolla, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, 3x Big Shootas

+ Killa Kans [150]
- 3x Killa Kans with Grotzooka & Grot Riggers

Total: 1999

[Lykum]

More Lootaz! Put em in a stationary Battlewagon with a Kannon (for the template) and rain death for 36" around. Avoid guns that are single-shot non-linked. You won't roll many 5s.

I'd consider going with mobs of 30 boyz. With I2 you aren't going to get many return attacks.

If you wanna go Mech, then you gotta take a Big Mek with a burna and kustom force field. I run 3 kans as a cover screen for my mob of boyz. The big mek is in there to make the kans obscured and repair any damage. Plus, the burna lets him flush out any weakly armored troops in cover.

Consider taking the Deffcoptas as 1 man units. A single kill will force a morale save for a 3-man unit.

[blackarmchair]

I could easily condense the Deffkoptas into a singe unit of 5. That would help with the morale issue.

Not sure how I am to free up the points for more lootas or 30-man mobs.

The big Mek is a big thing I'm missing too I agree.

What do you think I can drop from the list to make room for some/all of these things?

[DrLove42]

Don't think you need any more big mobs! That lists pretty potent.

If you want more Lootas and a Mek, drop the 3rd battlewagon...got plenty of transport in there. Just remember to put the mek and a hard squad in one and drive it flatout at the badguys...

As for deffkoptas if you cut them down to a squad of 5, then you'll lose 1 (more points). But also remember...deffkoptas, short of building your own, or buying them off ebay only come in the blackreach box. And only come in 3's. So you'd need two boxes worth.

If you're bent on deffkoptas i'd say buy 2 AoBR boxes, flog the marines, the mini rule books and anything you don't want. Thats a good start, with you having plenty of good boyz, nobz and deffkoptas.

[Tynskel]

if your friend wants ghazgull--- then your list you are building for him should have ghazgull. It should not be tainted by thoughts of 'too expensive'.

[blackarmchair]

Well we're sort of building it together lol.

It was actually his decision that Ghaz was too points heavy.

[Nungunz]

I'd drop the nobz down to normal ones (with a pain boy of course) and swap the doc for a KFF (obscured vehicles are awesome). Wagons only really need 2 Big Shootas.

Would take rokkits on the boyz rather than the shootas. You have plenty of volume fire in the list, but really need the high S, low AP shots.

With the extra points snag some more lootas and bump up the nob squad size a bit.