Tyranids 1500 points for the tournament

[Spellscape]

Hi

Please rate my list for the tournament, and what is best to add/remove?

1500 Tyranids

HQ
Tyrant Enhanced Senses Toxin Sacs TL Devourer TL Devourer Extended Carapace Guard 191

Fyrant Enhanced Senses Toxin Sacs Winged TL Devourer TL Devourer Warp Field 208

Troops
Spine Gaunts #1, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64
Spine Gaunts #2, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64
Genestealers #1, 8 Feeder Tendrils Scything Talons Scuttlers 192

Elites
Warriors, 3 Toxin Sacs Toxin Sacs Toxin Sacs TL Deathspiter TL Deathspiter Barbed Strangler Scything Talons Enhanced Senses Enhanced Senses Enhanced Senses 116
DakaFex, 1 Enhanced Senses TL Devourer TL Devourer Flesh Hooks 114
DakaFex, 1 Enhanced Senses TL Devourer TL Devourer Flesh Hooks 114

Heavy Support
Snipefex, 1 Enhanced Senses Venom Cannon Barbed Strangler Flesh Hooks 149
VenDevFex, 1 Enhanced Senses Venom Cannon TL Devourer Flesh Hooks 139
Snipefex, 1 Enhanced Senses Barbed Strangler Venom Cannon Flesh Hooks 149

Points Summary:
HQ: 399
Troops: 320
Elites: 344
Fast Attack: 0
Heavy Support: 437
Total: 1500

[Spellscape]

New Version


HQ
Tyrant Enhanced Senses Toxin Sacs TL Devorer TL Devorer Warp Field Guard Guard with Lash Whip 246
Fyrant Enhanced Senses Toxin Sacs Winged TL Devorer TL Devorer Warp Field 196

Troops
Spine Gaunts #1, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64
Spine Gaints, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64
Genestealers #1, 6 Feeder Tendrils Scuttlers 120


Elites
BoomFex, 1 Scything Talons Barbed Strangler 113
DakaFex, 1 Enhanced Senses TL Devorer TL Devorer 113
DakaFex, 1 Enhanced Senses TL Devorer TL Devorer 113

Heavy Support
Snipefex, 1 Enhanced Senses Venom Cannon Barbed Strangler 148
Zoanthropes, 3 WarpBlast WarpBlast WarpBlast Synapse 175
Snipefex, 1 Enhanced Senses Barbed Strangler Venom Cannon 148

Points Summary:
HQ: 442
Troops: 248
Elites: 339
Fast Attack: 0
Heavy Support: 471
Total: 1500

[Chumbalaya]

Bit light on the Troops, even if they are WON.

I'd pick up more Stealers but don't bother with Scuttlers, just hide behind your MC wall and protect them. You could probably lose a unit of WON gaunts and a Zoanthrope.

Shadow in the Warp would be great for your walkrant.

[Spellscape]

TNX
Is Shadow in the Warp good against CSM and Eldars?

[Chumbalaya]

It shuts down psykers of all types, which is always handy for so cheap.

[Spellscape]

3rd version

HQ
Tyrant Enhanced Senses Toxin Sacs TL Devorer TL Devorer Shadow In the Warp Guard Guard with Lash Whip Toxic Miasma 227
Fyrant Enhanced Senses Toxin Sacs Winged TL Devorer TL Devorer Warp Field 196

Troops
Spine Gaunts #1, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64
Spine Gaints #2, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64
Genestealers #1, 6 Feeder Tendrils Scuttlers 120
Spine Gaunts #3, 8 Spinefist Without Numbers 64

Elites
BoomFex, 1 Scything Talons Barbed Strangler 113
DakaFex, 1 Enhanced Senses TL Devorer TL Devorer 113
DakaFex, 1 Enhanced Senses TL Devorer TL Devorer 113

Heavy Support
Snipefex, 1 Enhanced Senses Venom Cannon Barbed Strangler 148
Zoanthropes, 2 WarpBlast WarpBlast Synapse Synapse 130
Snipefex, 1 Enhanced Senses Barbed Strangler Venom Cannon 148

Points Summary:
HQ: 423
Troops: 312
Elites: 339
Fast Attack: 0
Heavy Support: 426
Total: 1500

[Spellscape]

My Teammate will be IG so here is my new army list V4
Maybe I should use Shadow in the warp for anti Lash
1500 Pts - Tyranids Roster

HQ: Hive Tyrant (2#, 191 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant @ 191 pts (Extended Carapace +1 Save; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Twin-linked Devourer x2; Psychic Scream; Synapse Creature; The Horror)
1 Tyrant Guard (Lash Whips; Rending Claws)

HQ: Hive Tyrant (1#, 196 pts)
1 Hive Tyrant @ 196 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Toxin Sacs +1 St; Winged; Twin-linked Devourer x2; Synapse Creature; The Horror; Warp Field)

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 114 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 114 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Flesh Hooks; Twin-linked Devourer x2)

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 114 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 114 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Flesh Hooks; Twin-linked Devourer x2)

Elite: Carnifex (1#, 114 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 114 pts (Flesh Hooks; Scything Talons x1; Barbed Strangler)

Troops: Genestealers (7#, 140 pts)
7 Genestealers @ 140 pts (Feeder Tendrils; Scuttlers; Rending Claws)

Troops: Genestealers (7#, 140 pts)
7 Genestealers @ 140 pts (Feeder Tendrils; Scuttlers; Rending Claws)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 148 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 148 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon)

Heavy Support: Carnifex (1#, 148 pts)
1 Carnifex @ 148 pts (Enhanced Senses +1 BS; Barbed Strangler; Venom Cannon)

Heavy Support: Zoanthrope (3#, 195 pts)
1 Zoanthrope @ 195 pts (Toxic Miasma; Synapse Creature; Warp Blast; Warp Field)
1 Zoanthrope (Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field)
1 Zoanthrope (Toxic Miasma; Psychic Scream; Warp Blast; Warp Field)


Total Roster Cost: 1500

[mkerr]

@Spellscape: If your teammate is IG, then psychic scream would be a nice addition. A gunline guard army (particularly one with pinning weapons) would be an awesome combination. It might help if you post his list (and options) as well.

1. I'm not sure if I'd bother with the Flyrant (I use one myself and have tons of fun with it). With 3,000pts of enemy on the board, you might be better off with another walking TLD Tyrant.

2. If you aren't taking WON gaunts, then you really don't need the Zoanthropes. Your IG ally should be able to deal with tanks. I'd spend all those points on more Genestealer units (especially if you can benefit from his bonus to reserve rolls).

Honestly, I don't even think you need the Heavy Support Carnifexes (I'd use those points on more Tyrant Guard and Genestealers). The idea is that you have 5 TMCs with TLDs moving forward under the support of IG direct fire (dishing out a hefty penalty to those pinning tests). Your 3+ units of Genestealers outflank and tear up just about anything in the backfield (especially if they can re-roll the side they come in on).

Sounds pretty nasty to me.

--mkerr

[Spellscape]

Thank you
I have 4 Tyrants - 2 of them flying (DAKA and CC) and 2 walking (DAKA and Venom Cannon +Barbed Strangler) so I can take 2nd but only Venom Cannon +Barbed Strangler (I just don't have time to paint new one) Is this Tyrant version better than flying?

My teammate is a little light on Leman Russes he has Valkyrie and many chimeras. I'll post his list later. We also would like to take Inqusitor with Psychic Hood and Excruciators and also we considering Calidus Assassin.

[mkerr]

The strength of the IG + Tyranid combo is that the armies counter the other's weakness. If I could have tons if long-range, high-strength, low-AP shooting with Genestealers and TMCs, I'd be in heaven.

The cheap Chimeras are a great deal, but you really don't need them with a Tyranid teammate. I'd encourage him to bring as much indirect fire (especially ordnance) that he can get his hands on. Pinning tests (Ratlings, Indirect fire, etc.) combined with Psyker Battle Squads and Psychic Scream would be nasty. It would keep most opponents pinned until they become Genestealer meat.

-- mkerr