GW UK Throne of Skulls GT post 1 - How soft scoring nerfs a tournament...

[Walls]

What WAS the comp scoring system? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

[DarkLink]

Damn you're snarky this morning...

Someone put a floater in your fruit loops?

I did stay up late then get up 6 hours later...


I'm just impressed at how convoluted the system there is. I only got halfway through Denzark's explanation of how it all worked before scratching my head. I mean, blocking and normalizing scores by army can eliminate disparaties between user bias based on army choice, but what if all the IG armies have fully painted stuff, while all the SW players aren't? You have to run a statistical analysis to determine if the difference in scores is due to army choice or paint quality, and this doesn't avoid that need.

I'm not a fan of comp systems in the first place, as they're usually completely subjective, but this is also needlessly complex in a vain attempt to avoid that subjectivity.

[Herald of Nurgle]

This is exactly why I've told competitive players not to go to Skull of Thrones. To call it a tournament is a complete joke. When will GW realize that they can have both a fun/fluffy event with painting, modelling and the like and still have a 'competitiv' tournament with no soft scores.

The NOVA Open and Battle for Salvation were probably the most fun I've ever had at an event. Adepticon, BOLScon, Throne of Skulls are just kinda pathetic.

Personal opinion of course.

Whats amazing is despite there already being a number of events at GW UK which encourage this sort of thing - Battlefields, Tempus Fugitives (sometimes), etc - there is now too much of a swing in the wrong direction.
Not that I personally complain about the swing - i'd probably never win if it were pure competitive lol.

No comment on your own tournament prefs.

[Walls]

No one have a link or list for their scoring system? I swear to god I've asked in like 20 different places and just cannot get an answer.

[miteyheroes]

No one have a link or list for their scoring system? I swear to god I've asked in like 20 different places and just cannot get an answer.

[url]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1240392a_ToS_Rules_Pack.pdf[/url] is the main rules pack including the scoring system.
[url]http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1260041a_ToS_FAQ_02Jul10_WW.pdf[/url] is the FAQ, including the controversial ruling that only the PDF Daemon/Witch-Hunters codices are valid.

[david5th]

The overall winner was one of 2 Dark Eldar players. He only had 13 overall points.

Was he the guy using the old codex because one of them was using it?

[Col.Gravis]

The Throne of Skulls is a hobby event, not a Tournament, whatever GW or anyone else may call it. It used to be, it is no more, as I blogged about a while back when the new rules back was released. That you were disappointed is I'm afraid not too much of a surprise.

[Denzark]

One can always hope, but I naively hoped for better - I didn't anticipate the true nerfing power of such a whacked out score system...

However hoping to get a pass from wife to come exeter ways in may so hoping to see something better...

[Denzark]

Isotope you were 1, 3, 1, 3, 3 and 1 favourite army for 12 points. If that was you with Skarbrand and the standing upright crushers, you got my painting vote!

I was wearing a suit and shouting Blood for the Blood God when appropriate...

[Col.Gravis]

However hoping to get a pass from wife to come exeter ways in may so hoping to see something better...

I live in hope of that too, but last year the 40k tournament at Legionary was'nt anything to shout about in any positive way.

I'd recommend Maelstrom's 40k events at their venue in Mansfield at the moment as being your best bet for a good quality and friendly tournament. The bar there is cheap too

That said my own club are looking to organise a decent 40k Tournament in the future partly based on the Maelstrom scoring system.