Venerables

[Cyberscape7]

Cheers for the advice guys. I'll play a few a games and try and see what works for me

[Demonus]

I ran an ironclad with melta/hf in a drop pod yesterday in my vulkan army. dropped the pod right behind opponents Land Raider, that had moved up. Drove my land raider and disgorged vulkan and 5 TH/SS termies so his LR couldnt move anywhere (terrain on sides).

Dreadnought blew up the LR (after rolling 2+1 for my melta shot...) in CC, then moved on to faceroll some Obliterators. Had a LC terminator and Lillith run from me cause they couldnt hurt me. Was a great mosh pit in the center of the board with my terms + vulkan against 5 chaos term champions, lillith and 10 blood brides.

I think either can work well, the rifleman dreadnought shooting a lascannon and missile launcher halfway across the board can be great support. The close combat dreadnought owns low str armies like eldar and IG.