Compiled GK Rules Questions

[Tynskel]

So does that mean you don't get a +1A for lighting claws?

no, because the rulebook explicitly states the bonus for lightning claw pairs.

[scadugenga]

Dark, you and I are going to disagree categorically on the paired falchions interpretation until GW settles the matter, I think.

Because the rules between 4th and 5th edition only got more restrictive re: the extra attack for having a second weapon, not the reverse.

[wkz]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but (from memory) didn't the Nemesis force weapon section say something to the effect of "treat all Nemesis force weapons as a single weapon" or something?

Paired falchions = count as a single weapon with the benefit: +1 A.

[hisdudeness]

no, because the rulebook explicitly states the bonus for lightning claw pairs.

Sooooo Assault Terminators with lighting claws don't get 3 attacks?

[wkz]

Sooooo Assault Terminators with lighting claws don't get 3 attacks?

Erm, as much as I hate to agree with T outright, the rulebook DID say something about twin lightning claws and something about +1A...


I think what he meant was:
- The +1A was not mentioned inside the codex
- The +1A was mentioned inside the BRB.
- End effect: you get +1A.

Now for the falchions... which leads me back to the question in my post above: Is there or is there not a sentence inside the "Nemesis force weapon" general rules something to the effect of "treat all Nemesis force weapons as a single weapon"??

[hisdudeness]

No, there is no such line.

The rule book says a second lighting claw grants a +1A.

[wkz]

No, there is no such line.

I assume this is for "treat all Nemesis force weapons as a single weapon" line that I apparently remembered wrongly? Gotcha.

The rule book says a second lighting claw grants a +1A.

Erm, that is precisely what I said?

[Tynskel]

p54 has the line that you are thinking about in the Grey Knight book. The last part of the box talks about Nemesis Force Weapon in the singular, and states that they each have one or more additional abilities.

as for the rulebook, the lightning claw rules specifically mention matched pairs. Then later the two weapon descriptions.

[hisdudeness]

And because the BRB does not mention pair of nemesis force falchions they don’t get the standard +1A for being matched special weapons. Could the list is not all inclusive and only states (for examples) the common weapons at the time.

How about wolf claws? Do 2 of them not give the attack bonus? They are not listed in the BRB.

[lattd]

Wolf claws are treated exactly as lightning claws.