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    Default The Day After (What if GW went Bankrupt)

    The title says it all. What if GW went bankrupt. What would become of our Hobby?

    My belief is that the Intellectual Property of Both 40k and WHFB is too valuable not to be picked up by another company.

    I could be completely wrong though.

    What are people's opinions?

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    I think you are correct. The IP is too valuable.

    However even if every single person on every forum who said they would stop buying GW did, it is probably a drop in the ocean, as GW has not made a loss yet.

    Profits down in some areas, but not a loss overall. So I think this unlikely - actually what i could see first is a total withdrawal of bricks and mortar in a territory such as pulling back from Aus - save costs on shipping etc and let the internet boyz fight it out amongst themselves.
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    Exactly Denzark - I see this as being a move closer to a more web based layout for GW. Its cheaper for them just to offer their product to us online, and make us order it direct from them, and pay the shipping!
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    If it happens then yes, 40k and WFB will be sold off, probably individually. I would imagine the specialist games 'spin offs' like Necromunda and Blood Bowl would be bundled in with the pain worlds. Hard to see one company having 40k and another Necromunda.

    But as Denzark said GW are a long way from making a loss let alone folding. Sales volume is up in the UK, its main market, and is stable in the US and Oceania (in spite of antipodean prices), it is down very much in Europe though, and has been for some years. Worst happens they close all their European stores and fold the sales figures into the UK (which they sometimes do anyway). I think it would make a lot of sense to dump the AUS wing of the company and just ship them stuff from the UK at UK prices, but it seems they are going to open a factory in Australia to service growth in Asia so clearly they won't be doing that.
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    I would continue to buy stuff from all the companies I do now,(not GW) and welcome all the ex GW players to the wider table top wargames hobby!

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    Nope I dont think we would notice if GW went under to be honest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    If it happens then yes, 40k and WFB will be sold off, probably individually. I would imagine the specialist games 'spin offs' like Necromunda and Blood Bowl would be bundled in with the pain worlds. Hard to see one company having 40k and another Necromunda.
    I agree with you... It´s going to see difficult to see GW go down, I think we maybe see it in a few years, but today is something just impossible.

    But if it happens... No matter, as I am doing with Rackham´s Confrontation, I still have the minis and the rulebook so I can continue playing!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarneusCalgar View Post
    I agree with you... It´s going to see difficult to see GW go down, I think we maybe see it in a few years, but today is something just impossible.

    But if it happens... No matter, as I am doing with Rackham´s Confrontation, I still have the minis and the rulebook so I can continue playing!!
    Its actually not that difficult to imagine GW going under someday (not any time soon I imagine).

    If they ever do I expect it to be a slow drawn out processing with many rapid price increases, crazy regional restrictions, and blant attempts to cut out the middle-man retailors/vendors….oh wait…


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    If the every fully go any future will all depend on the state of the game, my guess is that they will sell before bankrupcy - someone else will take over the modeling and the game design - shouldn't be an issue either way :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarneusCalgar View Post
    But if it happens... No matter, as I am doing with Rackham´s Confrontation, I still have the minis and the rulebook so I can continue playing!!
    Confrontation is such a great game! I'm hopefully going to filling some holes in my collection this weeked at Origins! WooHOoo!

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    Yeah, this is an old thread. But there aren't that many threads in the Corporate discussion section that aren't too old for comments.

    I'm a little surprised by some of the sentiments here:

    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    But as Denzark said GW are a long way from making a loss let alone folding.
    Perhaps other people have not been reading the same financial reports that I have.

    They've been shrinking their company by paying out more in dividends than they made in profits. Also, the player base is shrinking (the prices are going up faster than the profits- also faster than inflation).

    Sure, they're a long ways off, but these practices aren't sustainable in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by odinsgrandson View Post
    Yeah, this is an old thread. But there aren't that many threads in the Corporate discussion section that aren't too old for comments.

    I'm a little surprised by some of the sentiments here:



    Perhaps other people have not been reading the same financial reports that I have.

    They've been shrinking their company by paying out more in dividends than they made in profits. Also, the player base is shrinking (the prices are going up faster than the profits- also faster than inflation).

    Sure, they're a long ways off, but these practices aren't sustainable in the long run.
    Not sure I wholly agree, but think the Hobbit will tell the tale. If they aren't able to capitalize on the renewed interest in LOTR think they may have to swallow a bigger loss then they would like....

    In any event GW is no crazy growth company, but they can very easily plod along forever with their existing player base...

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