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    Default Future Specialist Game releases a la Space Hulk and Dreadfleet.

    In light of Man O'War 2.0 aka Dread Fleet, I thought I'd post a couple of rumours I've heard:

    First, there is a new version of Blood Bowl being planned, no idea what stag it is at. A release next year as a 25th anniversary edition seems logical.

    Speculation: Current Blood Bowl teams may be converted to Finecast to go with the plastic teams included in the box.

    Second, there is a new edition of Warhammer Quest either being worked on or planned. No more details than that.

    Speculation: The basic warriors and all the monsters in multi-part plastic, card dungeon tiles as per Space Hulk, perhaps some plastic furnishings as well. Rules for all the old characters and whatnot included and the models re-released in Finecast.

    The above two rumours have been corroborated by a reliable Warseer rumourmonger and come from both two of my sources as well.

    Third, some are hinting that Dread Fleet may see some expansions in the future, but this is not something I've heard anything about.

    Fourth, a new edition of Mordheim is in the very early planning stages, it will include some plastic warbands, buildings and tokens and will be accompanied by a conversion of teh current mordheim range (or parts of it) to Finecast. No corroboration on this, I'd like to believe it but it seems a tad ambitious.

    All these are consistent with a possible revamping of the SG range. One off releases of rules enabling current, low selling SG ranges to be used again. No word on any of the 40k SGs.

    As always, take with a grain of salt until you get official word from GW.
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    I love Blood Bowl as it is so only a little bit excited about that one.

    A new Warhammer Quest would be awesome! very interested. It was fantastic.

    I never got to play Mordheim but any new games are good and I will be in their like swim wear

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    Whilst some of the Blood bowl teams are realtively new (ogres etc) most of those sculpts are probably older than I am, I think that most teams seriously need to be updated before being released in Finecast.
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    I think it is interesting, though all those projects would be more ambitious than either space hulk of seahammer. Not only does it involve finecasting everything, but you would have to do new buildings (I'm guessing that given the standards of scenery now, the card buildings would look pretty crap). That is going to massively increase the cost to both make and retail. Also, there are numerous expansions in the form of additional warbands/teams/heroes, as well as things like Lair of the Orc lord that would need taking into account. There are lot of extra rules that have accumulated over the years. I for one will be pretty narked if I can't use my Imperial noble and Warrior priest in newquest. So that means either taking into account all the extras available in the rules in the main book, or a whole lot of FAQing.

    I'm not saying these won't happen, just that any of those games represents a significant step up from what has gone before. These are going to involve a lot of extra work and as such, I can't see limited releases like SH and DF making enough money for them. GW has been content to let the SG range lurk in the attic with a few diehards like myself feeding it fishheads whilst they focus on what makes money (Space Marines). It would represent a significant change in ethos for not just the SG's but the design studio as a whole. A change I for one would welcome, but I won't hold my breath.
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    Well, the Finecasting is mostly speculation, I say mostly because I doubt GW will want loads of expensive metal sitting around forever. Mordheim is also the least likely to happen, based on conversations with other reliable rumourmongers.

    Even ignoring Finecast, you release a special edition of BB with some new plastic teams, perhaps four given the amount of models GW can stick in a box. Or two and a plastic stadium. You include the rules for all the other teams, and people will buy it and hopefully some of the old teams. No ongoing support required, but it could make them more money.

    I see a similar situation for Warhammer quest (bearing mind this is all speculation), release a box with half a dozen adventurer models but rules for all the old ones they used to sell. Include rules for monsters available in the main Warhammer range and you have another one off release with no ongoing support that could boost sales of other items.
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    What about Dark future? I still have one of the novels where Elvis is a bounty hunter in the 90s. Very strange stuff.
    More Necromunda please.

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    The one off box sets have (so far) always been released in the 'Gaming' section of GW's site.

    Neither Space Hulk, nor Dreadfleet were or are considered Specialist Games.

    I guess GW couldn't abide if anyone that wanted a limited release game recieved a 'forced' exposure to the Specialist Games line by selling the special release in the Specialist Games section.

    It would be nice if GW gave the Specialist Games some positive attention.

    But if and when they do, if they continue to follow their self imposed policy of not mentioning/promoting Specialist Games and most importantly, not allowing company and independent stores to stock the product corporate managenments belief that Specalist Games won't sell (profitably enough to take time and sales away from 40k and WFB that is) will be proven correct in the typical self fullfilling prophetic manner.
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    Yes, but Bloodbowl and Mordheim are both in the SG section and the rumours concern them. Hence the future in the title.

    Also they do mention SGs in the GW blog from time to time.
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    Yes, Games Workshop has mentioned SG once or twice this year on the blog, think they gave it a paragraph. More surprisingly Specialist Games had intro tables at Games Day in Chicago, considering the lack of official enthusiam, I'm not really sure why they did that. I appreciate that GW and Forgeworld even manufacture miniatures still. Every so often I can't find what I want on Ebay and I buy from their online store.

    What put Specialist Games in a coma is that they don't have intro box sets, and won't allow GW/independent stores to sell the games (instead Spartan Games, etc. fill that niche). All the excuses in the world won't fly in my mind (except the explanation that when compared to effort (time invested) and results (money earned) the larger scale can't be beat).

    The only GW games I play are Specialist (and some Space Hulk now and then). I really enjoy the 'worlds' GW has created, but personally I'm not really into 'skirmish' games at all. If they didn't have Epic and BFG I would probably just play historicals and get my 40K fix from Black Library.

    Frankly, I think it's been so long since GW has been involved I question if the people who actually play SG games would even welcome an 'intrusion' by GW. SG players are kinda like a colony that has been abandoned by the homeland. I get the feeling we have become pretty independent. New models would be appreciated, rule interference would at best probably be ignored or at worst responded to with the typical overwrought internet hostility.

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    Actually they dedicated a whole days blog to BFG earlier in the year

    Having just gotten into it (shockingly) i'd like a Necromunda update

    GW should just stop letting Jervis write codexes and just get him onto the SG's
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