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    I'd just fix all the contradictory stuff with the mechanicus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    I think you ate oversimplifying the gods, I've always felt it to be a rather elegant system.

    Tzeentch represents our tendency to conspire, scheme and plot.
    Slaanesh our selfishness and baser desires (remember she is the god of EXCESS and pleasure, not just pleasure/desire)
    Nurgle represents our frequent dichotomy of entropy and hope.
    Khorne represents the basic instincts we have of thumping stuff that threatens us.

    I do agree there is a tendency for people, GW/BL authors included, to miss the subtleties, particularly with Slaanesh. In fact it was one of the teasons I was glad the new daemonettes are suitably daemonic instead of just being funny looking strippers.

    P.S. I think the Hell Dorado miniature looks like a toy and is ridiculously over the top and silly, even if the GW one is pretty sad now too.
    well theres nothing saying there aren't other minor chaos gods. but they're probably either not concerned with real space or are enslaved by one of the big four.

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    Well all gods are technically Chaos gods, but the big Four dominate. A lot of little ones whose belief is limited to single planetary populations would be little more than daemons in comparison.
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    If warp entities are just manifestations of strong emotions and psychic backlash, then I'd have it revealed that there are actually two emperors. There's the being sitting on the golden throne, who may or may not be a true psychic presence anymore. And then, there's a warp entity, born from the millenia of hope and faith pouring out from humanity. Both are the emperor. While the emperor on the golden throne (supposedly) maintains the astronomicon and what not, the warp entity is the one who protects, lending his aid to preserve mankind against all the evils of the universe, including those from the warp. The big difference between the two beings is, the real emperor (assuming there is anything actually living in his husk) still abhors being worshiped as a god, while the warp-born emperor ... well, he IS a god, and is sustained by human worship in the same way the true emperor is sustained by dying psychers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    I wouldn't change much, perhaps alter the tone of the Space Marines so there isn't quite the same expectation of 'OMG TEH AWESOMEST!!!' that leads to truly ghastly fluff being written to meet those expectations.
    This is how Marines were in Rogue Trader. Hive scum given a bit of strength and power armour. I've never liked how the fluff is drastically different to in game power.


    Me, I'd give Imperial Guard and Space Marines Jet Bikes back. I've always liked the idea of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    I think you ate oversimplifying the gods, I've always felt it to be a rather elegant system.

    Tzeentch represents our tendency to conspire, scheme and plot.
    Slaanesh our selfishness and baser desires (remember she is the god of EXCESS and pleasure, not just pleasure/desire)
    Nurgle represents our frequent dichotomy of entropy and hope.
    Khorne represents the basic instincts we have of thumping stuff that threatens us.

    I do agree there is a tendency for people, GW/BL authors included, to miss the subtleties, particularly with Slaanesh. In fact it was one of the teasons I was glad the new daemonettes are suitably daemonic instead of just being funny looking strippers.

    P.S. I think the Hell Dorado miniature looks like a toy and is ridiculously over the top and silly, even if the GW one is pretty sad now too.
    I thought they'd deliberately written the subtleties out of the chaos gods with each edition, eg khorne wasnt just a frenzied killer, he used to be the god of martial honour and skill too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by energongoodie View Post
    This is how Marines were in Rogue Trader. Hive scum given a bit of strength and power armour. I've never liked how the fluff is drastically different to in game power.


    Me, I'd give Imperial Guard and Space Marines Jet Bikes back. I've always liked the idea of them.
    They have jetbikes, at least the imperium and mechanicus does, why they don't get built and sent out on missions? is something that escapes me, maybe in the next marines codex.

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    The technology for jetbikes is nearly lost, Ithought the Ravenwing chaps bike was something likethe only operational one left?
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    I want hoards of jetbikes, not just one. And I want a guard platoon full of them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eldargal View Post
    The technology for jetbikes is nearly lost, Ithought the Ravenwing chaps bike was something likethe only operational one left?
    no reason the adeptus mechanicus can't reverse engineer the ones that are still lying around, they are accepted patterns.

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