Black Templars Rumor Roundup

[Bigred]

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Ghost has said that BT are due out before Tau, presumably the next codex. He also said:
due to them sitting done for nearly 8 months?... n honestly sword brethren are nice

kits for sword brethren n nophytes(sp) as ive said im more of a xenos guy but ill provide what i know, vows are less restrictive

i also saw things for something called knights of the inner circle (or something along those lines).. they were named each came from a successor chapter, n the guy who lead them was a bt... it was interesting but as usual salt applies

Originally Posted by Mirbeau
Not as big! But more bizarre! (unless you play fantasy...). That's most of what I know about it. Speculating from that - big buffing thing with a howdah ?!

A bit more for now - in regards to the 'neophytes' (if they continue with that name), I heard they were finecast. Whilst it would leave room for another plastic kit, I hope this isn't true.

Dark Angels are not at all on my radar, doesn't mean they aren't happening anytime soon, but I haven't heard a thing, if ghost's heard anything it is likely to do with black templars.

by Jared van Kell

A little but nothing solid. What I have heard.

- Phil Kelly is writing the Codex.
- More emphasis on the horde aspect of the army with lots of large units of Initiates and Neophytes.
- Emperors Champion is more in line with the company champion of the Grey Knights but is still 2 wounds. Gains preferred enemy against independent characters and monstrous creatures.

I will let you know as I hear more.

Some additional bits.

- I forgot to mention the Rightous Zeal rule could be changing to be more along the lines of the Rage USR. Something along the lines of if they fail a Ld test then they are subject to Rage and must advance towards the nearest enemy unit. As yet the details are sketchy.

- All the current special characters (ie: Helbrect and Grimaldius) will remain. Also I had heard of an mention of a special character who is like the greatest of all of the Emperor's Champions and the greatest warrior in the Black Templars. I had heard mention of a bike mounted special character with a lance like weapon but I cannot confirm this yet. "

Originally Posted by superdupermatt
-Certain units to get Rage USR is one I've heard repeatedly. (foolishly didn't see the first post... oops!)

-Sword Brethren are to get a special rule where when they are assaulted the enemy unit has to re-roll all* successful hits, at the expense of 1 attack. It's called "parry".

-Land Raiders, when suffering a 5 or 6 on the damage chart* (so "wrecked" or "destroyed") gets one more turn where it rampage, think along the lines of the machine spirit going bezerk.

-No horses as far as I am aware, bikes would be the direction (if any at all) for riding knights.
There is a named Emperor's Champion, he's meant to be the longest living EC in the Black Templars history, or somesuch.

*I'll seek clarification as it doesn't quite seem right in my head.

UPDATED 1/5/2012

ghost21 says:
-relic dreadnaughts, like a mobile requiary bearer... is what i had heard

-expect bt to be the landraider spam army

via Marshal Laeroth
-there's going to be a named emperors champion, who's old by BT standards, and has been EC for a while. long enough to be better than the standard one.

-initiates will be cheaper, around 11 points, and neotyphes around 6pts. still, expect some drawbacks to this.

-there'll be a new named character on a bike with eternal warrior, and also eternal warrior killer.

-and possibly some dreadnought/knight style thing that fits with the rest of the army, in line with the big stuff from GK and BA.

-oh, last thing, possibly some upgrade that lets land raiders be destroyed by the enemy, but still 'live' for a turn. final shoot and move, the explode in a last ditch suicide run or someut.

via BloodCrusade

1)Helbrecht(Cheaper with rules to make Sword Brethren either Scoring or Troops)
2)Grimaldus(Rules update)
3)Special Champion
4)Draco(Will be making the transfer from White Dwarf to Codex with rule amendments)

These are the *guaranteed* Special Characters with rumors of:

1) Marshal/Castellan for drop pod armies(Reminiscent of one of our own's Custom Codex, believe it was Sigismund Himself?)
2)Terminator HQ(Allows for termies as scoring or as Troops for 'BlackWing')

Haven't heard anything of being allowed to bring Bikes as Troops if your 'Captain' rides one, which I'm thankful for. There's a Chapter for that and it's White Scars.

Special Units being brought to the Codex:

1)Chaplain Dreadnought(Same reroll hits on charge, probably fealess to all units with-in 6" like Grimaldus)
2)Durandal Dreadnought(Being brought from White Dwarf into the Codex, haven't heard the rules will change- maybe one more base attack?)
3)Assault Rhino Chassis(Been rumored/hoped for a long time, whether from the Rhino or a new vehicle on it's chassis)

[DrLove42]

Although believable these seem to have come out of nowhere. We've got much more info on Tau, so not sure I can believe these guys being next, in a few months time.

Probably wrong, and almost certainly wishful thinking, but still....

[WYSIWYG]

Wow, the Necron's bodies aren't even cold and people are already burying them, moving on to the next rumors. Reminds of the time that goatboy was so excited for the nid codex, and when he read and realized it wasn't hyper competitive, he posted an article, the week of release, about how he was tired of talking about bugs already and wanted to move on to some more power armor codices.

[Galadren]

I'm not sure about the Emperor's Champion SC as according to the current fluff the Emperor's Champion is only Champion for one battle, and a new one is selected before each battle.

[Xas]

I wonder if helbrecht will have any mention (maybe even a rule to interact with the replacement bionic) of Imothek chopping off his hand...

[Kawauso]

I wonder if helbrecht will have any mention (maybe even a rule to interact with the replacement bionic) of Imothek chopping off his hand...

I'm sure he will.
The modern back of books have been seeing a lot more interconnected fluff between all of them - case in point being the Tesseract Labyrinths and Inquisitor Valeria from the GK codex and all of the references to them in the Necron book.

[wittdooley]

I certainly hope so. I think the interconnectivity is a fabulous thing that really helps to bring the whole universe together.

[Rissan4ever]

I certainly hope so. I think the interconnectivity is a fabulous thing that really helps to bring the whole universe together.

+1 to that. Connecting the codices like that could also lead to plots and actually progressing the 40K universe. The only thing that intrigues me about Warmachine is the interconnected stories in the army books (or the idea of them anyway; I haven't actually read them). I'd like to see a similar idea applied to 40K.

[CaterpillarHomicide]

They may take our Troop-Terminators, they may take our Mortis Dreadnoughts, but they can't take, our Inner Circle!

[Grovel]

I'm not sure about the Emperor's Champion SC as according to the current fluff the Emperor's Champion is only Champion for one battle, and a new one is selected before each battle.

You're right about a champion being selected each battle, but AFAIK a champion is selected, not a *new* champion. In that case, a particularly gifted warrior could be selected repeatedly if he repeatedly proves himself to be the best candidate.