Outrage for Chinese counterfeiters

[Necron2.0]

As you know I'm sure, [url=http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/12/outrage-counterfeiters-from-china.html]>>the issue of counterfeiting<<[/url] is on the main news feed.

All I can say is, "<*GASP*> Counterfeiting in a communist nation whose stated purpose is to destroy the West. Whoda thunk?!!"

People always seem to be shocked when they find out that counterfeiting is going on in China, and they always seem to be placated when Chinese officials come out huffing and puffing how they'll "get to the bottom of it," but come on people! What do you think the Chinese economic revolution has been based on? Counterfeiting in China is not only overlooked, it's actively supported.

For the US, China should have never been put on the preferred trading partners list. In fact, we shouldn't be doing business with China at all, and any company/organization that DOES do business with them should have been brought up on treason. But, welcome to the modern world, where business interests buy and sell politicians like we sell plastic dudesmen, and business "leaders" only have enough foresight to see to their next bonus/golden parachute.

[yrdetraxe]

You're right but still there must be something done against them!
We cannot let something like this happen and just say, "well that's the way it goes..."

And I've started by writing an mail to FW / GW informing them of this shop.
That's the least I can do.

[Wildeybeast]

I'd agree that the west shouldn't trade with China (though on the basis of their rather shoddy human rights record rather than their lax approach to forgery) but sadly that ain't going to happen. China would just trade with all those developing nations who have similar attitudes to human rights/IP and we end with an economic cold war.

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Wow. Y'all are turning duplicate models into a diatribe against a nation of over a billion people? That's a bit've an overreaction.

On an economic scale, although distasteful, such knock-offs are actually kinda important. If costs are marked up to a point that the risks associated with producing and purchasing a knock-off are overwhelmed by the profits/savings, then that's a sign that the price of the official product is becoming too heavy for the market.

[Scrumblegort]

Wow. Y'all are turning duplicate models into a diatribe against a nation of over a billion people? That's a bit've an overreaction.

On an economic scale, although distasteful, such knock-offs are actually kinda important. If costs are marked up to a point that the risks associated with producing and purchasing a knock-off are overwhelmed by the profits/savings, then that's a sign that the price of the official product is becoming too heavy for the market.

Isn't this kind of a diatribe about Games Workshops prices? Really though, they make cheap knock offs of everything in China. Even relatively cheap kids toys get knocked off. The problem with China is there is essentially no risks to counterfeiters, even if they get stopped they typically just move on to a different product or wait a few years.

[Lockark]

Thier website apparently has blowen up since this story posting. What exactly did they look like/were?

Just casts of the orginal modles? Or just haliouresly bad house scuplted stuff?

[thecactusman17]

"Stated goal to destroy the west?"

Funny, here your stated goal is to isolate over a billion people, the majority of whom have little or no impact at all on American or Chinese politics, and you accuse China of threatening world peace.

Here's what I think: So long as China continues to be a place to do business on the cheap, companies from everywhere, including the US, will do business with them. That's just how capitalism works. As far as counterfeit goods goes, it's not like we don't have problems with counterfeiting and cheap knockoffs right here in the states, or overseas in Europe, Mexico and South America. But China is the boogeyman, because at some point they claimed to be Communist (they never were) and intending to destroy the west (not just laughable from a military perspective, but disastrous from an economic perspective).

[Rev. Tiberius Jackhammer]

Thier website apparently has blowen up since this story posting. What exactly did they look like/were?

Just casts of the orginal modles? Or just haliouresly bad house scuplted stuff?

Mainly resin/pewter casts of existing GWS stuff, small selection, but with lots of forgeworld things. Those who've bought from them describe the model quality as being on par or even sometimes superior to GWS/forgeworld.

[Lockark]

Mainly resin/pewter casts of existing GWS stuff, small selection, but with lots of forgeworld things. Those who've bought from them describe the model quality as being on par or even sometimes superior to GWS/forgeworld.

Wouldn't surprise me. Alot of times the low quality counterfeiters don't stick around for long.

I have a friend who got a bunch of brand new Eldar super heavies cheap from a dude in Russia on Ebay and have a similar experience. It was so good we thought for sure they were the real model. After he bought them, the guy had another one up fairly quickly. In hind sight we're pretty sure they were counterfeit. Guy is still going strong. (For how fast he was getting them, and how cheap he was selling them. It was the only thing that made sence.)

Another friend bought a bunch of IG chimeras cheap off Ebay, and they were a bunch of poorly cast resins. The guy isn't around on Ebay anymore.

[Sister Rosette Soulknyt]

Right lets all ban business with China, yeah thats gonna work...
So who are you going to get to fill hundreds of factories to make all those name brand clothing you wear each day, lug around on your back, carry, or use in everyday life??
Oh yeah lets all use our countries people, good idea, until you count that those same companies would be unwilling to pay you the minimum wage as that costs way to much for them, compared to some Asian country they can sucker in to pay what we all would concern a shocking and immoral low wage everyday.

So tell me, lets say we take product A, its made in China, they pay there staff $50 a week if im being really nice, to sweat and work so many long hours for there hard money, now lets make product A in the UK/USA/AUS and now we have to pay $5-20 an hour, add overtime, loading, sickleave, tax, superannuation, Union Fees etc etc.
Which one do you really think company A wants to spend to make product A??

Saying lets stop buying Chinese products is like starving your way of life, seriously take a good look how many products we use everyday that alone is made in just China.
Are you really shocked that someone there, or that matter in any country started copying GW products? If you had the means, would you not do it for just your own person armies, not even taking into account you could make money out of it.