so you mean to tell me.....

[ragnarcissist]

my fenrisian wolves have a better WS than my trained Astartes bloodclaws?!?!? i know this is well known but COME ON! i still like to include bloodclaws in my list, usually one 8 man pack with WG and wolf priest but i find it ridiculous they kept them at WS 3....


on another note: last weekend my thunder lord with 2 fenrisian wolves got charged by lysander, counter-attacked, completely whiffed with the lord but killed lysander before he could strike back with the two pet wolves. the dude rolled 4 (four!) ones.... epic.

[Yriel_The_Angelic]

Bloodclaws are drunk and headstrong. Wolves are wiser and keener (have to be to be on top of food chain in fenris). I like to think my friends bloodclaws got plastered and knocked up a couple of nids, hence the lower WS.

[khsrio621]

Same reason that a Zoanthrope, which hardly even has any arms, has the same weapon skill as a Hormagaunt, which was made specifically for close combat.

[Grenadier]

Its the way the cookie crumbles. The chapter master of the Black Templars doesn't even compete with a basic vanilla marine commander.

[Shadow Puppet]

That is partially due to using a dated codex. If i remember correctly all space marine commanders back then had WS 5. Though I didn't start playing space marines until 5th edition so i could be wrong.

[Grovel]

If you're looking for internal balance, the SW codex is the wrong place to be searching.

[Vior'la Mont'yon]

You are correct that all the Space Marine commanders used to be WS5. It was in an era where 6 was nigh unheard of.

[joppo]

I can give my carnifex frag grenades so he can use his lowly initiative when charging into cover....but I can't give them to my genestealers or my hormagaunts. That makes a lot of sense to me.

[sprugly]

One of a couple of things that bother me about the wolves codex. I run count as chaos warband and I'd love to have some jump packs in there but I refuse to have ws 3 combat specialists!

Is also like to have bikes, same problem.

I could use wolf guard but they're sooooo expensive to give the upgrades its just not worth it.

I'll stick to my juggernauts (thunderwolves)
Sprugly

[turiya64]

lower WS or not a large pack with a wolf preast in a crusaider is alot of fun to run and works well. the unit is hard to kill and does a bang up job.