priamrches loyalists and traitor

[sicarius2424]

am i the only one to have realised that all the traitor primarches have been treated poorly by the emporer when they were found and all the loyalists were treated nicely and praised and if you dont believe me check out the primarches at [url]www.lexicanium.com[/url]



what are your thoughts???? and then what if the traitors were jumbled up with the loyalists like having death guard ironwarriors raven guard blood angels alpha legion space wolves thousand sons night lords salamanders and the rest traitor please tell me your thoughts

[Abominable Plague Marine]

Well as the story goes, elements of each Legion either remaind loyal or turned traitor, generally if you were caught on the "wrong" side, you were disposed of.

As for the Primarchs, I dont think the were all treated badly, just the Emperor was busy and left them under Horus's wing.

[sicarius2424]

no but have you really read what the emporer did with the primarches look at mortarion fulgrim was pressuered to do evry thing perfect by the emporer calling the the emporers children and so on alphisarius doesnt count

[Abominable Plague Marine]

Ive read them all many times and no where does it say the Emperor made any of the legions do anything!

Typhus damned Mortarion and the Death Guard, and Fulgrim and his legion became vein after the fact and sought perfection in all its from driving themselves mad in the process.

Fact is, all the Primarchs fought with each other (in their own little ways) for the Emperors approval, some went to extremes!

[wittdooley]

Yeah, they make it pretty clear in the Horus Heresy books that the majority of the traitor legions became traitors because they believed the Emperor was no longer the leader of the Great Crusade and that Horus was the rightful leader.

The only traitor legion that I can even think of that turned as a direct result of the Emperor is Magnus and his Thousand Sons. Magnus wanted to use his warp abilities to help cull the traitors until the Emperor damned his use of the warp and sent Russ and the wolves to purge Prospero.

I think maybe you should just read the books and a lot of this stuff would be pretty clear to you, as well.

[sicarius2424]

ah but i have read all the horus heresy books out and ive looked over alot of stuf on lexicanium

[ork mage]

Just like to point out that if you've read all of the stuff you'd know that Russ and the Emperor fought each other, also that the Emperor knocked Russ out and they didn't speak to each other for a long time (Space Wolf Novels), Yet the Wolves are one of the most Loyal Chapters (To the Emperor, not the Beaurocrats)

[Abominable Plague Marine]

ah but i have read all the horus heresy books out and ive looked over alot of stuf on lexicanium

So give us some specifics rather than making broad statements? What has you troubled over this?

[Lord Inquisitor]

The Emperor treated Angron well, if you've read Tales of Heresy. Angron was beating up on the Custodes while the Emperor was politely asking him to stop the violence. The legions who turned against the Emperor where the ones who began to believe that regular people should just serve them. They got selfish and saw the Space Marines as humanity and didn't see that they were serving humanity they were apart of. There pride caused them to lose sight of why they began the Crusade, to reunite humanity and send it into a Golden Age. Not enslave humanity to their will. They viewed the Emperor as weak because the Emperor served humanity and was selfless.

[ThePov]

The Emperor treated Angron well, if you've read Tales of Heresy. Angron was beating up on the Custodes while the Emperor was politely asking him to stop the violence. The legions who turned against the Emperor where the ones who began to believe that regular people should just serve them. They got selfish and saw the Space Marines as humanity and didn't see that they were serving humanity they were apart of. There pride caused them to lose sight of why they began the Crusade, to reunite humanity and send it into a Golden Age. Not enslave humanity to their will. They viewed the Emperor as weak because the Emperor served humanity and was selfless.

Ummmmm... The Big E screwed Angron over more than anyone else. When the Emperor found him, he was facing a glorious, suicidal last stand with his loyal men against those who had oppressed him all his life, and the Emperor :Saved" him against his will, so all Angron could do was watch his men die. Maybe the Emperor tried to compensate for this later, but you can NOT say that the Emperor treated Angron well.