Why Is List-Tailoring A Bad Thing?

[AnEnemy]

It's generally bad. It harms players that want a friendly, but competitive game who don't mind disclosing their armies to their opponents while turning good generals into lazy generals who don't have to manage thinking on the fly.

I play with my father every now and then and he loves to ask me a week ahead of time what army I'm using or, if we're playing BattleTech, which 'Mechs I'll be bringing over. I don't mind telling him because...well...he's my dad. Besides, I'll usually give away this info to others that I play.

What ends up happening is he tailors his 40k or BattleTech force to oppose my army and stops there. I usually end up winning because I haven't spent a week convincing myself that my army will do the job for me.

[Chuck777]

List tailoring is a crime punishable by me never playing the List Tailor eery again.

This is a game about fun for both sides. Fun does not mean lop sided victories because one sided honed his list to counter everything your army brought to the table.

[The AKH]

Although, few things are funnier than watching your opponent misread what you're taking, and plan his army to fight a different set up.

"Oh, did I neglect to mention that my Imperial Guard army has no tanks and 200 Guardsmen? I suppose your meltaguns will kill a few of them..."

[Demonus]

My two cents.

If I go to a store, Ill bring an all comers list to play people.
If I play in a Tourney, Ill bring an all comers list.
If I am playing my friends, and have no idea what they are playing, Ill bring an all comers list.

However if I want to test my army, or a friends, and we agree before hand as to whom is playing what, I will tailor the snot out of my list to put a beat down on him.

My reasoning is fluff related and simple. Take a Space Marine Force that is invading an ork/tyranid planet. Will they load up on Melta Guns or Flamers for these fights? Would I send 600pts worth of Thunder Wolves or WraithLords after Dark Eldar who ignore my high toughness with their basic weapons? Would I load up on gloom prisms vs an Army with 0 Psykers?

I have fun playing both ways.

[Chuck777]

My reasoning is fluff related and simple. Take a Space Marine Force that is invading an ork/tyranid planet. Will they load up on Melta Guns or Flamers for these fights? Would I send 600pts worth of Thunder Wolves or WraithLords after Dark Eldar who ignore my high toughness with their basic weapons? Would I load up on gloom prisms vs an Army with 0 Psykers?

That's perfectly acceptable if both players know this is what is happening aa head of time.

If you show up with a tailored list and your opponent shows up with a take-all-comers list, then that's not fair.

Discussion avoids unfun moments and arguments.

[Demonus]

Exactly

LOL the only loss Ive had with my Necrons was the time I showed up and my friend "accidentally forgot" to finish his list. Strange how it ended up being all close combat Dark Eldar....

[the jeske]

Although, few things are funnier than watching your opponent misread what you're taking, and plan his army to fight a different set up.

what would be nice and true , If A all armies could tailor B tailoring didnt mean armies with better dex[aka more options to build armies] just got much better and those that dont got worse C if an army is actualy well tailored then why move units post deployment at all , you just check if you get two turns of avarge shoting/melee/reservs[what ever the list is build around] and you win , because good tailoring is better then hard meta .
D there is nothing to learn from tailored matches other then better armies win because they can overcome the rules of and edition and the random rolls [the same can be done after reading 2 different codexes , so more or less waste of time for you and someone else]. E there are all comers lists which you cant tailor against with half the dex [proper build 1850 or over cortez builds for example] . if everyone plays tailored one dude plays the good all comers list then everyone else [those with old dex, those who cant meta , does who dont have the cash to by 9 double flamer landspeeders and 3 whirlwinds just to play agains their ork "friend" , those whos armies cant meta like chaos , tau or nids or sob ] is ****ed.


ah and then it makes themm quit the game , which ends with smaller community people playing the same people over and over again , more people leaving and then dead group.