Moving on from the table edge, into models...

[sneakyben]

Moving on from the table edge from reserve, into models...
2 situations I have questions about:

I have units deployed right on the table edge... Opponent wants to bring on models from reserve directly into that area...

Situation 1) they are infantry... the only way they can get on is for them to be placed within 1" of my models... Since this is the movement phase, rather than the assult phase, is this allowed? if not is the unit unable to enter the table at this point?

Situation 2) they are tanks... can they tank-shock as they enter the table?

[doom-kitten]

The infantry one is a definite no and the opponent has to choose a different location to come on from, but for tanks I couldn't tell you and am curious about it myself.

[Wolfshade]

They can tank shock you, but if you successfully stop the tank ala death or glory attack then you can strand the vehicle partially off the table and therefore destroyed

[jifel]

Another question, can jump infantry in normal reserve just jump over guys lined up on the table edge?

[Nightspawn]

Situation 1) It is unfortunate but your troops will not be able to enter the table edge until the enemy is away from it. It is a tactic that some armies can pull off. This could result in them not coming in at all.


Situation 2) When your tank comes on it can tank shock. This tank shock happens before the tank is on the board.(if the enemy is close enough to stop troops, it should be close enough for tanks not to be on the board at all, partly on the board doesn't count) So if it gets immoblized if will be destroyed being that it is still off the board. Wrecked and destroyed if they do the damage to stop it is off the board too so no crater.


Situation 3) Jump packs cannot just jump over the enemy line to get onto the table. But they can deepstrike.


Hope this helps.

[bfmusashi]

Situation 3) Jump packs cannot just jump over the enemy line to get onto the table. But they can deepstrike.

I disagree. Jump infantry can ignore other models and terrain in their 12" move. p.52 the block on Movement.

[AbusePuppy]

Yes, Jump Infantry (as well as Skimmers and Jetbikes) can all "fly over" units in their way when entering via a table edge, just as they are always allowed to do- you'll have to land more than 1" away from the enemy, of course.

[The Plumber]

Situation 3) Jump packs cannot just jump over the enemy line to get onto the table. But they can deepstrike.


Hope this helps.[/QUOTE

afraid your wrong here buddy. As long as they remain 1" away from the enemy, jump infantry (and jetbikes/skimmers) can move over models on the edge of the table.

I have seen players try and dog pile deldar webway portals in this manner, (which is basically a table edge) only to find themselves stumped by hellions and reavers...

[Nightspawn]

" as if they had been positioned just off the board edge in the previous turn and moved as normal" -This means that you cannot come anywhere near the table edge where an enemy is that close. So your starting point is gone.

"Just off the board edge" would be to close so you would not be able to start there.

If you have no starting point you cannot deploy.

Show me some FAQ or anything that says you can.

[DarkLink]

Wrong.

See, you might want to actually read the rules to justify your argument. The "just off the table edge" is just shorthand we players might use, it's not what the rules actually say.

All the rules say is that you may move onto the board from any point on the table edge, measuring from table edge. It's kind of the same thing as if you placed the model just off the board, and then moved it, but that's not what the rules actually say.

Your argument relies on the idea that you place the models off the board edge, then move them. This is not what happens. You simply measure from the table edge and move on. That move can't normally take you within 1" of an enemy model, but in the case of Jump Infantry it does not matter.