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    Default Moving on from the table edge, into models...

    Moving on from the table edge from reserve, into models...
    2 situations I have questions about:

    I have units deployed right on the table edge... Opponent wants to bring on models from reserve directly into that area...

    Situation 1) they are infantry... the only way they can get on is for them to be placed within 1" of my models... Since this is the movement phase, rather than the assult phase, is this allowed? if not is the unit unable to enter the table at this point?

    Situation 2) they are tanks... can they tank-shock as they enter the table?

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    The infantry one is a definite no and the opponent has to choose a different location to come on from, but for tanks I couldn't tell you and am curious about it myself.
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    They can tank shock you, but if you successfully stop the tank ala death or glory attack then you can strand the vehicle partially off the table and therefore destroyed

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    Another question, can jump infantry in normal reserve just jump over guys lined up on the table edge?

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    Situation 1) It is unfortunate but your troops will not be able to enter the table edge until the enemy is away from it. It is a tactic that some armies can pull off. This could result in them not coming in at all.


    Situation 2) When your tank comes on it can tank shock. This tank shock happens before the tank is on the board.(if the enemy is close enough to stop troops, it should be close enough for tanks not to be on the board at all, partly on the board doesn't count) So if it gets immoblized if will be destroyed being that it is still off the board. Wrecked and destroyed if they do the damage to stop it is off the board too so no crater.


    Situation 3) Jump packs cannot just jump over the enemy line to get onto the table. But they can deepstrike.


    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightspawn View Post
    Situation 3) Jump packs cannot just jump over the enemy line to get onto the table. But they can deepstrike.
    I disagree. Jump infantry can ignore other models and terrain in their 12" move. p.52 the block on Movement.

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    Yes, Jump Infantry (as well as Skimmers and Jetbikes) can all "fly over" units in their way when entering via a table edge, just as they are always allowed to do- you'll have to land more than 1" away from the enemy, of course.
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    Pg. 94 - When a reserve unit arrives, it must move onto the table from the controlling player's own table edge(unless it's deep striking or outflanking). Each model's move is measured from the table edge of the battlefield, as if they had been positioned just off the board edge in the previous turn and moved as normal.

    If the enemy is on the board edge, that means that your jump boys would have to be more than one inch away from their own table edge. Having to keep back at least one inch from the enemy in the movement phase. Your reserves in the movement phase wouldn't even be able to get close to the table edge in the movement phase because of the one inch rule. So how would they be able to move on at all?

    "Each model's move is measured from the table edge of the battlefield, as if they had been positioned just off the board edge in the previous turn and moved as normal." If they were there before the enemy turn it would be different but they were not. Occupying the edge so you opponent can't deploy is a viable tactic against and army. Jump packs or not. And jump packs will not allow you just to "ignore" the enemy if he is too close to your own edge(ie, on the edge or within one inch of it).

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    Really, can you measure to a model that is off the board?
    Also, you did notice that the unit/models are not actually just off the tables edge but " as if they had been positioned just off the board edge "

    'As if ' is not the same as being at the tables edge, otherwise the units on the table could not move to within 1" of the edge.
    So in your idea no unit can move closer than 1" from the table's edge even though there is no unit to measure to, heh.


    Sillyness aside, AbusePuppy is correct.
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    Situation 3) Jump packs cannot just jump over the enemy line to get onto the table. But they can deepstrike.


    Hope this helps.[/QUOTE

    afraid your wrong here buddy. As long as they remain 1" away from the enemy, jump infantry (and jetbikes/skimmers) can move over models on the edge of the table.

    I have seen players try and dog pile deldar webway portals in this manner, (which is basically a table edge) only to find themselves stumped by hellions and reavers...

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