Doing my head in....

[Haighus]

I can't see Daboarder's posts, but I don't have a background in science, more engineering. I have an interest in science, naturally. Not gunna claim I know everything about it, though.

Besides, I thought we were on a Wargaming forum, not a scientific debate. Tbh, if people show my doubts about things to be wrong, I'd be pretty happy. I'm a naive optimist deep down, but this world makes it hard to keep that up. :P

Yeah, atm for me it is looking at what people do to themselves, and then expect to be 'fixed' by healthcare. Just makes you depressed, especially when a lot of it can't be 'fixed' at the stage people present with it. The trends for obesity and being overweight are staggering.

[Kirsten]

The trends for obesity and being overweight are staggering.

that's because they are too fat to walk far

[Haighus]

that's because they are too fat to walk far

Eventually... No one becomes obese overnight. Most people only have a small excess energy intake, just they have it for a long time, and it results in excess weight. 2/3 of the UK is overweight, 1/4 is obese (those figures overlap, the 2/3 includes the obese people too). The people who are overweight for the most part are able to exercise enough to loose weight, but overweight is becoming normal, reducing the incentive for people to loose weight. Well, that is one of the trends that is happening.

[url]http://www.noo.org.uk/securefiles/150702_1255//AdultWeight_Aug2014_v2.pdf[/url]

[Kirsten]

I was referring to the staggering bit...

[Haighus]

I was referring to the staggering bit...

XD Oops...

[Kirsten]

[CoffeeGrunt]

I dunno, I get a lot of fuel for my optimism:
[URL="http://www.theoceancleanup.com/press/show/item/19-year-old-invents-feasible-solution-to-cleanup-ocean-garbage-patches.html"]Cleaning up that Garbage Patch[/URL]
[URL="http://www.livescience.com/43318-fusion-energy-reaches-milestone.html"]Getting more power out of fusion than we put in[/URL]
[URL="http://www.gatesfoundation.org/"]The Gates Foundation, in its entirety[/URL]
[URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/bladeless-wind-turbines-generate-electricity-by-shaking-not-spinning-10257275.html"]New bladeless wind turbines, that cost less to maintain and build[/URL]
[URL="https://www.ted.com/talks/ludwick_marishane_a_bath_without_water?language=en "]The Waterless Bath, a way for poor communities to stay clean and healthy, invented by a teenager[/URL]
[URL="https://www.ted.com/talks/joe_landolina_this_gel_can_make_you_stop_bleeding_ instantly?language=en"]Vetigel, a compound that can stop arterial bleeding in seconds[/URL]

There's a lot to look forward to.

[Psychosplodge]

But if you're a pessimist and those things actually happen then you're pleasantly surprised instead

[CoffeeGrunt]

But if you're a pessimist and those things actually happen then you're pleasantly surprised instead

Or you're a moody bugger who complains about everything. See: the front page for how fun that is en masse. :P

[Psychosplodge]

It doesn't say Cynical misanthrope on my profile for nothing.