Skaven: Latest Rumors

[Bigred]

There are foul tidings on the fetid winds that emanate from Skavenblight:

The old book had the following CORE units:

Clanrats
Skavenslaves
Stormvermin
Swarms
Nightrunners
Giant rats
Poisoned Wind Globadiers

Now, with the exception of Globadiers, all can be put in ranks and they are all core.

Rumoured mount options are:
Grey Seer - Screaming Bell
Plague Priest - Plague Furnace, Giant Rat
Warlord - Rat Ogre, Giant Rat, Litter/Throne of some type
Mounts are only for characters and Nurglitch will be used a lot both as a Warlord and a Plague priest.

Ikit Claw will be a spellcasting nightmare. and effective in combat to boot. He will be able to use all the Skaven spells or any of the normal 8 lores.

Deathmaster does indeed have a dagger in his tail!

SiN is in.
+1" flight remains.
Skaven may still decline challenges and use LD for the unit.
Life is Cheap is only for slaves.

Vermin Lord is back
Doom Wheel is back
Seer LD7
Assassin is a hero choice
Warplock pistol or muskets for all characters

Clanrats: 4 points.
Nightrunner: 7 points, no skirmish, one movement before the battle starts, two hand weapons and throwing stars included, LD:6 (9 with full ranks).
Stormvermin: 7 points with halberds and option for shields, S:3, 25 point magic items for the champion.
Rat swarms are non 0-1 and 25 pts each.

Rat Ogres: 40 points, plus 8 points for each handler. Frenzy, champion WS:4, A:4. Master Moulder is a kind of unit champion with LD 6 and option for things catcher, no mixed units with Rat-ogres and giant rats.
Jezzails: S:6.
Gutter Runner: 6+ ward save.
Plague Monks: no poison.

Hellpit Abomination: is in and quite potent.
Plague Furnance: giant censor pushed by plague monks, impact hits and gas.
Warp-lightning Cannon: fires like a common cannon with a 3" template at the very end of the line, strength still random, no armor save, D6 wounds, crew doesnt have to flee, LD 7, @90 points

5 different weapon teams
Ratling
Warpfire thrower
Poisoned wind mortar, similar to globadiers
A hand to hand weapon team with impact hits and additional attacks
Warpdrill to tunnel for Eshin units

13 different spells, 6 for Warlocks, 6 for Plague priests.
D3 warpstone tokens for every mage at the start of the game.
Warp lightning does only d6 hits and 1 still hits the caster
Spell to stop fliers
Spell for -1 BS to all enemy shooting

Plague Furnace is a mount for a plague lord/priest. It is said to works like a Cauldron of Blood, giving a bonus like poisoned attacks or frenzy to nearby units, whilst nearby Pestilens units gain either Hatred or possibly Stubborn.

Plague Catapults are S:2, no armour save, 5" template and the target unit must take a panic test if wounded.

Storm banner is like the old one except it runs out at 4+. Which I think is probably better than before.

~As usual, standard caveats apply to all of this. Have fun

[MaidenManiac]

About time there came some meaty rumours of them ratarsed ones! Thanks alot BigRed

First glance is a huge disappointment over the fact that the Grey Seer gets LD7. LD7 was the huge reason for taking a Warlord in the current book, with that gone I suppose that Clan Eshin will successfully have eliminated all Warlords from the fields of battle

[L192837465]

About time there came some meaty rumours of them ratarsed ones! Thanks alot BigRed

First glance is a huge disappointment over the fact that the Grey Seer gets LD7. LD7 was the huge reason for taking a Warlord in the current book, with that gone I suppose that Clan Eshin will successfully have eliminated all Warlords from the fields of battle

I wouldn't be so sure. The Grey Seer was 235 points in the old book. A semi-kitted warlord was 160? The warlord is actually going to pound face now, and the greyseer will be a TON of points.

[thetallest]

Life is Cheap is only for slaves.

If this is in then I'm out.

[Randroid]

*chitter* from a Skaven...

The book is looking like it’ll be laid out with the following units. It’s a good spread each level has a good representation of each major clan. And since mainstay is out you should be able to make pretty good themed lists of whatever you want.

LORDS
Warlord Queek Head-taker
Verminlord - roughly 500pts
Lord Skrolk, Plaguelord of Clan Pestilens - Bringing Skrolk lets you take plague monks as core
Thanquoul and Boneripper
Throt the Unclean, Master Mutator of Clan Moulder
Ikit Claw, Chief Warlock of Clan Skryre
Warlord
Grey Seer

HEROES
Warlock Engineer - wizard 1/2, Skryre Sniper weaponry available
Plague Priest - lvl 1/2 wizard upgrade available
Chieftain
Deathmaster Snikch
Tetch – nothing has been given on him except his name, and this name doesn’t appear in any current lore
Assassins

Character Mounts:
Grey Seer - Screaming Bell
Plague Priest - Plague Furnace, Giant Rat
Warlord - Rat Ogre, Giant Rat, War Litter

CORE
Slaves
Clan Rats
Storm Vermin
Rat Swarms
Night Runners
Giant Rats – Master Moulder as a packmaster upgrade

SPECIAL
Jezzails - No longer skirmish, Sniper Champion @ BS4
Gutter Runners
Plague Monks
Censor Bearers - drop to 14pts, 2A on profile (3 with frenzy)
Rat Ogres
Poisoned Wind Globadiers

RARE
Warp Lightning Cannon
Plague Catapult
Hellpit Abomination
Doom Wheel - 3d6 movement, immune to psych, impact hits, 150pts


Special Items:

Storm banner, Weeping Blades, Warpstone Stars, Warpscroll, Warpstorm scroll, Brass Orb, Death globe, Fellblade, Sacred Banner of Horned rat, Skalm, Skavenbrew, Smoke bombs will be in the book.
Warpscroll now S2
Weeping blade: AP, D3 wounds, Can be used by GR champion
Infernal Bomb: an Assassin can place it wherever he likes during the movement phase. It can be triggered anytime during the game.
When triggered, on a 2+ roll it explodes with St10 D3 wounds (center of template) or St 3 (if touched). A roll of 1 couses no effect.
warlock gear moved to regular arcane item
on a 4+ extra PD
+2 to warplightning hits

New kit available will be able to make plague furnace, screaming bell, or plague catapult.

[Bigred]

OK, it sounds CRAZY but there is chatter of a "13th Spell" in the Skaven armybook:

CAST: 25+ (cannot be augmented with extra dice through items)
Effect: Target unit suffers 3d6 wounds; no saves allowed. Any surviving models are turned into clanrats.

HOLY MOLY! Someone doesn't like deathstars!

[Dooley]

I think I just squirted the musk of EXCITEMENT!!

[Lord Azaghul]

I think the only thing that I don't like is the -1 bs spell, as it stands shooting has become to unrealiable and effective, and a few armies are absolutly left out in cold as far as fair play goes.

That being said - it sounds really interesting - the anti-death star spell is hillarious!

[Yhcrana]

Any news on what Skaven models are being done for a second wave?

I have the last two versions of the screaming bell and was wondering if they are redoing it?

[Bigred]

There is a new screaming Bell kit that can be built out as 3 different items from the Armybook. Plastic, and described as a beautiful kit.