Moral Question

[DrLove42]

OK a moral question here

Pornhub, a youtube style website for all things Porn make money through advertising and subscriber features (what they are, i have no idea).

They recently tried to make a $10,000 dollar donation to a Breast Cancer Research charity (cos lets face it....they make their money on boobs)

Said charity refused to accept it because of who the donor was.

Do we still live in a world where porn as a business is that looked down on?

And how do you feel about denying money for a good cause because its source doesn't agree with your morals, but is still legal

[Bean]

I'm not sure that's a moral question, but the answer is obviously yes: we do still live in a world where porn as a business is that looked down on.

Whether or not that's a good thing (and there are some reasonable arguments either way) would be a moral question.

[DrLove42]

OK then I think the question I was going for was something along the lines of how do you feel about deying money for a good cause because its source doesn't agree with your morals, but is still legal?

[Psychosplodge]

They should have taken the money, it's not from illegal means.
I would also assume at least 50% of the charities staff access porn in some form or another.

[ElectricPaladin]

I take issue with a cancer charity using its position to moralize. Cancer is a terrible disease - the biggest disease of all, as its tied to the central flaw of multicellular biology - and we should all pool our resources to limit its impact on our lives. This is not a place for petty concerns.

At the same time - and for the same reason - I take issue with (and no longer support) the "Komen For the Cure" foundation, as it has become apparent that they are more interested in protecting their IP and market share, pursuing a bizarrely anti-women's health anti-Planned Parenthood agenda, and otherwise meddling in politics than they are in cancer research and awareness. I still donate, just not to them.

That said, I also have a problem with the "save the boobies!" campaign. Sure, it's cute, but breast cancer kills women. It also kills women. Reducing it to "let's stop this disease from making women who we are attracted to less attractive by hurting their boobs" is childish and a little insulting.

But... it also sells, and why should we look a gift donation in the... mouth?

And, frankly, sh*t always gets done by appealing to the in-power-group. Because, you know, they have the power. Dr. King did the same thing with civil disobedience to overcome America's Jim Crow laws. If we have to appeal to the lust of men - especially in such a light-hearted way - to get money for breast cancer research... well, there are worse strategies.

But back to the issue at hand - yes, I think that refusing to take money from porn producers when lives are on the line is morally questionable. Porn is an industry, and most porn actors and actresses are in it because they like it, or at least can live with it, which is all that most people can say about their lives. Refusing their money is nothing but self-righteousness, and when it's a matter of life or death for people suffering from or who might develop cancer, it's a pretty terrible kind of self-righteousness.

[Psychosplodge]

There are probably cancer charities in other countries that are less "self righteous" anyone know if they tried one of those?

[Deadlift]

I think that because some porn can still be seen as exploitive to some vulnerable woman, especially a site like porn hub when just about anything can be uploaded, then yes I think morally, the charity in question has a point. Obviously not all woman are in the porn industry because of exploitation, it obvious some love it. But not all. I suppose you could suggest that the chosen Breast cancer charity, whilst a little tongue in cheek could but seen as maybe distasteful and obviously a promotional ploy too. Had someone from the company made a private donation under the radar, I don't think the charity in question would have refused.
But let's not sugar coat how charity's sometimes go about getting donations. I have recently stopped my business donating to one charity in favour of another. The charity collections officer ( a paid not voluntary position) tried every tactic under the sun to get a donation. He finally lied to my staff and said I had agreed to donate X amount when I had actuall told him no.
We all know we hate those chuggers (charity muggers) who accost you on the street wanting you bank details etc etc.
So for some charity's to take a moral high ground, is quite frankly hypocritical in some instances.

[Psychosplodge]

I hate chuggers.

[Deadlift]

I hate chuggers.

I had one actually try and stop me by holding my sons pushchair back by grabbing the handle. I wrapped my hand over his and dragged him 25 metres up the street.

[Psychosplodge]

That's terrible that they'd do that. When the third tried stopping me in about 100m of street I stood for half an hour asking him questions and been interested, and at end walked away after telling him I'd never give my bank details to some random in the street.
Made his targets harder to hit that day though...