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    It's fine, they're busy dealing with their neckbeard rage of me liking the prequels!
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    The prequels definitely had their moments--and a far better overarching plot than the originals (which didn't, really, have much of an overarching plot at all).

    Also, I, too, like the look of the Venator, though that opening scene in, what, episode 3--the "big" space battle over Coruscant--made me lose any lingering shreds of respect I had for Star Wars space-shipery. Crew-serviced, cannon-style ship guns firing in broadsides as two capital ships fly within feet of each other in a scene that would make even a cheesy pirate movie cringe a little inside? Seriously. Not cool.

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    Besides my favourite boob ship from Batle beyond the stars, has no one mentioned Slave 2, Fetts ship. One of my favourite Star Wars toys as a kid and I still think it looks very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bean View Post
    Also, I, too, like the look of the Venator, though that opening scene in, what, episode 3--the "big" space battle over Coruscant--made me lose any lingering shreds of respect I had for Star Wars space-shipery. Crew-serviced, cannon-style ship guns firing in broadsides as two capital ships fly within feet of each other in a scene that would make even a cheesy pirate movie cringe a little inside? Seriously. Not cool.
    Well, I suppose the difficulty with that is that a 'modern' method of capital ship warfare (I say modern, it's been the method used since the 1940s) would be achingly dull to show from a visuals perspective, especially one where the primary anti-capital ship weapons are far too large to be used by the (completely superfluous) fighters and bombers involved. It's the same reason that, since there's been more effort made to involve flyers in 40K (since Double Eagle, really) there've been a few references to 'smart missiles' like the ones used by aircraft today being banned due to being too close to AI for comfort or something, so as to bring dogfighting back. It might be how it's done today, but 'over the horizon' naval and aerial combat's just boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlift View Post
    no one mentioned Slave 2, Fetts ship. One of my favourite Star Wars toys as a kid and I still think it looks very cool.
    I'm hoping that's a typo buddy. Us nerds take this sort of thing pretty seriously

    For me, I know it is unoriginal, but I love the X-Wing. When they lock S-foils in attack position I still get a shiver down my spine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by energongoodie View Post
    I'm hoping that's a typo buddy. Us nerds take this sort of thing pretty seriously

    For me, I know it is unoriginal, but I love the X-Wing. When they lock S-foils in attack position I still get a shiver down my spine.
    Lol, no sorry not a typo, I am obviously not on the same geekery level as some lol. I will try harder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlift View Post
    Lol, no sorry not a typo, I am obviously not on the same geekery level as some lol. I will try harder
    I hope so, Commander Deadlift, for your sake. The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Up The Walls! View Post
    Well, I suppose the difficulty with that is that a 'modern' method of capital ship warfare (I say modern, it's been the method used since the 1940s) would be achingly dull to show from a visuals perspective, especially one where the primary anti-capital ship weapons are far too large to be used by the (completely superfluous) fighters and bombers involved. It's the same reason that, since there's been more effort made to involve flyers in 40K (since Double Eagle, really) there've been a few references to 'smart missiles' like the ones used by aircraft today being banned due to being too close to AI for comfort or something, so as to bring dogfighting back. It might be how it's done today, but 'over the horizon' naval and aerial combat's just boring.
    Oh, definitely. I completely understand. Still, there're better "cinematic" ship fights and worse ones, and that's one of the worse ones. See Babylon 5 (again) for a better (though far from perfect) example in television and David Weber's Honor Harrington books for a much, much better example in print. Though Surface Detail still has my favorite example of a space battle in it.



    In much the same way that naval miniatures games that aren't stupid aren't fun--and the ones that are fun are stupid. It's a sad conundrum...
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    Your arguments were going so well, till the babylon 5 came out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychosplodge View Post
    Your arguments were going so well, till the babylon 5 came out...
    Lol. Not a fan of Babylon five? It has tons of problems, but if you can find a better example of space combat in film, I'd love to hear it (no, seriously--I would.)

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