What are the best dice in the world ever????????????????

[Denzark]

Hello peeps

The last chap I was playing had an awesome set of what i would refer to as 'Casino Dice' - all perfectly square, see through plastic, with dots printed on rather than indented. We were chatting and he said he saw some study or other where, in a mechanical contraption, over 1000 rolls, indented dice would be more likely to fall 6 side down - ie one up - especially normal rounded corner dice.

I have some ex-casion dice a relative brought back from Vegas for me and rate these as my most impartial dice. My worst dice are a batch of Flames of War Afrika Korps dice - the amount of times I see swastika (ie ones) is unreal.

I also have a Chaos Dice - with an 8 pointed star for 1. I use it for all key roles, and it is guaranteed to fail saves for my lord or make the game go onto turn 6-7 - at the worst posible moment.

Questions:

1. What are the ebst dice in the world ever?

2. Anybody got a good source of totally square, printed dot dice (pardon my lack of nomenclature)?

3. Anybody got a good source of custom dice with army icons etc?

[Pendragon38]

I'm a fan of rackem dice from AT-43......I get a lot of sixs.

[DarkLink]

1. There's a reason casinos use casino dice.

2. [url]http://lmgtfy.com/?q=casino+dice[/url]

3. You're just going to get stuck with chessix size dice, most likely. Plus, to be completely honest dice with icons are annoying for your opponent, because your opponent can't read them. I don't know if your icon represents a 6, or a 1, or if you're just cheating on me. It's kind of like picking up your hits rather than your misses so your opponent doesn't get a chance to verify them. It doesn't mean you're cheating, it's just kind of annoying for your opponent.

[inquisitorsog]

I can't find the link now , but there was a purported unpublished engineering study of dice rolls that surprising indicated ONES came up more often when using normal "consumer" dice. There's a bit other research out there too. But, in most cases, on a flat, hard surface, the differences only came out to ones you'd see in thousands of rolls. However, playing on a soft, flocked, or uneven surface may encourage any biases.

That study concluded
1) Casino dice (the printed dot dice) were most reliable. The "fill" is the same density and kind of plastic as the body of the die. The square edges also help lots.
2) If you can't get casino dice, then get dice with the squarest edges possible.
3) If you can't get casino dice, look for dice that use different sized pips to balance the amount of plastic removed for the pip (so a large pip on the 1 side and small pips on the 6 side)
4) The rounder the edge or the deeper the pip (when evenly sized), the more the bias asserts itself.
5) likewise, the various novelty dice tend to also have more biases.

You can get casino dice on Amazon or many other general sites that carry decent levels of gaming supplies. Be prepared for them to be typically at least 2-3 dollars each and large. I've never found a size such as we typically use for gaming.

[thingol]

Chessex is likely going to be your source for custom dice. The price per die goes up the fewer you order, so be prepared to put out a dollar or more pre die depending on quantities. I have a counts-as-Deathwing Legio Cybernetica army, and had dice cut with the AdMech logo to replace the 1's. I find these dice to be satisfactorily random, likely because of the volume of material removed on the "One" side. While I can sympathize with DarkLink's response (I played a fellow that used BattleTech dice, with different pip patterns and icons, hard to follow), I've personally found so long as all your dice are consistently marked, most opponents don't mind them so long as you're clear at the outset what the non-numerical side indicates. Might've helped that anytime the logo came up I was likely losing a Terminator...

[magickbk]

This is the supposed study: [URL="http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That%27s_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice"]http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That%27s_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice[/URL]

I have some regular old Chessex dice that are hard to read, honestly. I mostly use them during games at home. If I go to a store, I use regular old GW dice, for the most part. I have tried to order custom dice through Chessex, but as long as I am clear on what my dice are with my opponent, I wouldn't expect to have a problem. I also make sure to leave dice down on the table for a moment after I roll, to give my opponent time to see for themselves what I rolled. I have only ever met one or two people who were fast-snatchers of rolled dice, and they were the ones who may have been trying to sneak an extra hit here and there. That being said, I don't play in tournaments, in which time is of the essence, and people have a tendency to move more quickly.

[Kirsten]

personally I like the little dice that have the weighted 1 side...
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[Denzark]

This is the supposed study: [URL="http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That%27s_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice"]http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/That%27s_How_I_Roll_-_A_Scientific_Analysis_of_Dice[/URL]

I have some regular old Chessex dice that are hard to read, honestly. I mostly use them during games at home. If I go to a store, I use regular old GW dice, for the most part. I have tried to order custom dice through Chessex, but as long as I am clear on what my dice are with my opponent, I wouldn't expect to have a problem. I also make sure to leave dice down on the table for a moment after I roll, to give my opponent time to see for themselves what I rolled. I have only ever met one or two people who were fast-snatchers of rolled dice, and they were the ones who may have been trying to sneak an extra hit here and there. That being said, I don't play in tournaments, in which time is of the essence, and people have a tendency to move more quickly.

Awesome v interesting. I think I will be trying for flush dot casino dice

[PalinMoonstride]

After years of terrible results with chessex style dice i broke down and got some of these.

[url]http://www.gamescience.com/[/url]

The video on the site explains a lot about how dice are made.

Since getting the dice I have noticed more statistical averages in my rolls tho the placebo effect is most likely affecting me now.

I am not a fan of casino dice due to their size and price. Also i have had people in warmachine tournaments break my models with them.

You can find d6 sets on ebay for abound 8 usd.

[DarkLink]

While I can sympathize with DarkLink's response (I played a fellow that used BattleTech dice, with different pip patterns and icons, hard to follow), I've personally found so long as all your dice are consistently marked, most opponents don't mind them so long as you're clear at the outset what the non-numerical side indicates. Might've helped that anytime the logo came up I was likely losing a Terminator...

It's not a problem if you're a decent opponent. As long as you're not that guy no one wants to play, you're fine. For example, at one of the last tournaments I went to I played a guy with dull gold pips on dull red dice that were impossible to read, and he rolled as fast as possible so that I couldn't see what he was rolling. I should have called it on him. Incidentally, he's the only person I've ever played in a tournament who was actually kinda cheating, and only about the second or third person I wouldn't want to play again. I run into a lot more problems with casual players outside of tournaments, with flubbing rules and things like that.