What are the best dice in the world ever????????????????

[DarkLink]

2. To stop any shenanigans, particularly where there is a prize, TOs should consider issuing dice to be used, all of the same type - for the utmost fairness.

That wouldn't work. At all.

Just think about it. Now the TO has to buy a new set of dice for every single player, because good luck reclaiming a door prize which would effectively be what this is. And since everyone has to have a decent number of dice for those armies that roll a lot of dice, you'd probably need to go with one of those 36 dice packs. That's like $10 a person, at least, adding up to several hundred dollars for even a small tournament.

Then look at it from the player standpoint. I went to about 10 tournaments this year (Sacramento's flgs has a tournament circuit, and I went to several other various tournaments). If I was issued a new pack of dice every time, I'd have a few hundred extra dice sitting around, but because I get issued new dice and can't use my own dice, I have literally a box of dice that have been used precisely one day, then tossed in a box to be forgotten and replaced.

It's absurd, and it frankly addresses a nonexistent problem. I've seen dice-related cheating precisely once in all the tournaments I've been to, and that was as much about the player fastrolling and lying about results as it was about the dice themselves, and the dice weren't loaded or anything, just a color that was difficult to read from across the table.

[eldargal]

Compared to standard dice, they have a higher chance of producing a, generally, favorable result. That is an advantage.

No, they have a higher chance of following the probabilities inherent in a D6 system.

[Wolfshade]

You wouldn't need it per person, you could have table dice and if any are missing at the end of the round it is the responsibility of the people using the tables to account for them.

I think that it is not a problem, though some people seem to want to win at all costs those with that they roll for specifically for leadership, "snake eyes again?!" or invulnerable termiantor saves "6s all the way". Of course if you wanted to have weighted dice probably be best if you have them so they come up fours as that would be less obvious...

[FireHazard]

I am sad enough to admit that I love dice. I'm not a hardcore collector but I do have a lot! A very, VERY lot

I couldn't give a stuff about the mathematics or probability of the rolls as long as I'm having fun, they look pretty and they match the colour of my army (I have marbled red with gold spots for Sanguinius' boys - they're beautiful).

If you're just after pretty dice, check out eBay for some excellent bundle deals and these two sites:

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Or just go here

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[Mr. Furious]

I have found that the GW Munitorum dice seem to roll a lot more of a spread than the round edge chessex dice I normally use. In some non-scientific test rolls I found them to give a larger spread of results than the chessex. They are square edged and, due to the design of their markings, are probably about the same weight on each side. Try some out before you invest the ridiculous amount of money it will take to buy enough casino dice to roll efficiently.

[Wolfshade]

Don't forget spread isn't always a sign of randomness, the human brain is designed to see patterns and it does so very well so well in fact that some random song shuffles have been made less random in order for them to appear more random!

Also each dice roll is itself and independent event so it is possible that I could play a game of 40k and roll nothing but 5s.

[OrksOrksOrks]

No, they have a higher chance of following the probabilities inherent in a D6 system.

Thats what he's saying, people complain that the common D6s, chessix and the GW ones in the box, consistently roll low, with a 1 being more likely than 1/6, as you want to reduce the number of 1s rolled in general, using a casino dice should get this result. He never insinuated it was cheating or unfair, just that this is the only reason but if you were using casino dice and going against an opponent using common, rounded dice, you would be more likely to get a favourable result as they have the a lower chance of rolling a 1.

[Xenith]

No, they have a higher chance of following the probabilities inherent in a D6 system.

True, but when the game is designed and tested, and power level of units is decided by the rolling of 12mm, round cornered opaque GW dice...that roll proportionally more 1's...

Using casino dice gives an advantage to someone over using GW standard dice.

[eldargal]

Then you should buy better dice. Complaining about someone using casino dice because GW dice are rubbish is like complaining about someone using non-GW brushes because GW brushes are rubbish. They are not integral to the game, you do not need to use GW dice to play and many players choose not to anyway. Casino dice are just that do their job better and more fairly.

It is also worth noting that GW themselves sell square dice.

[Tzeentch's Dark Agent]

I has red ones of those.