"Why Does Everyone Hate Birmingham?"

[Godless Zealot]

Never understood this whole hating other cities thing. Is it the city they hate as in it's layout and structures or the people? or a little of both? I've visited many of them and there are good parts and bad parts like anywhere but nothing to make me hate any particular aspect of it.

[Wolfshade]

Birmingham has several issues.
The Birmingham accent isn't particularly enamouring, though frequently it is confused with the black country accent.
Like any large city it has the associated issues/benefits of large immigrant communities.
The layout of the city centre was completely re-vamped in the 60s to make it very attractive to car drivers however, the demand far exceeds capacity so there are moves to try and resolve this issue, and also to re-balance it with other modes of transport. For instance all the cars were on flyovers and the pedestrians were on subterrain tunnels, these tunnels then became unwelcoming through the 80s and never recovered, they are now trying to rebalance that.

[Psychosplodge]

I'm pretty sure we're more green/treey than Birmingham.
Plus we had the only steam hammer in the country that could make spitfire drive shafts...

[Learn2Eel]

All I know about them is that Pavlyuchenko scored a goal that saw them relegated. That, to me, is unforgivable.

[Wolfshade]

I'm pretty sure we're more green/treey than Birmingham.
Plus we had the only steam hammer in the country that could make spitfire drive shafts...

Nope, less urban trees, don't for get Sheffield is tiny, less than third the size and quarter of the population (if you use the urban areas surrounding, otherwise its half the population size but larger)

[Psychosplodge]

The pwoers that be are always stating we're the greenest city in the country (apparently that's our new selling point), wonder if they're doing it on head of population?

[Wolfshade]

I imagine it depends on how you count it, it could be in terms of tree density, in canopy coverage, in raw tree numbers, urban trees that are not on privately held land, IDK,

Ah ha "estimated 2.5 million trees, giving Sheffield the highest ratio of trees to people of any city in Europe"

So while you have a higher tree/person we have more trees

[Psychosplodge]

I imagine it depends on how you count it, it could be in terms of tree density, in canopy coverage, in raw tree numbers, urban trees that are not on privately held land, IDK,

Ah ha "estimated 2.5 million trees, giving Sheffield the highest ratio of trees to people of any city in Europe"

So while you have a higher tree/person we have more trees

probably taken from the same source

61% of Sheffield's entire area is green space

And furnaces, really?

[Wolfshade]

A cricket pitch is green space and has 0 trees (actually one test match does have 1 tree in it, and there are special rules about hitting said tree).

Also first blast furnace to smelt iron ore and coke.

The crucible process was 1740s, 31 years later...so ssh.