Thread: WFB 9th Edition Rumor Roundup
03-11-2013, 10:06 AM #1
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WFB 9th Edition Rumor Roundup
via Warseer 3-11-2013
I was actually discussing with Harry about a month or so ago that next WFB is not till 2015.
An extra year would allow all armies to get treatment before new edition in 2015.
Personally I'd swap WE & Brets around and change Skaven to O&G....... but that's just me
9th edition rumors
Major overhall and not like all the other "major" ones - radical rethink. Ricks gone so other people want to get their hands on it.
All army books gone and Ravening Hordes replacement
Timeline moves forward
So many changes won't come out before 2015, not next year (Memphis got panties in a bunch about this)
9th will be more than a quick fix.
I posted months ago to hint as much. I first heard this last year. I have heard it a few times since.
When I said I thought 'it was 2014 but opinions vary' was because I was hearing different things from different folks.
When it comes to rumours I almost always go with what hastings says ... as he is almost always right.
So if his sources are saying 2015 ... then thats probably right.
As for the 'big changes' stuff ... you may want to hold off on the salt a bit.
Every now and then I have a look at the job vacancies on the gw site out of interest. Recently the nature of adverts and types of jobs seems to have changed. There was in particular a big explosion of design studio jobs advertised at the end of last month. Seems like they are looking for everything from rules writers to background writers to army painters to video/hobby/painting presenters.
Perhaps they're starting to a get a bit more professional about design studio recruitment i.e. not a weird in house Recruitment process but an attempt to recruit the most effective staff. Some of the jobs indicate a new direction in project work, particularly the split between a rule writer and background writer role. One can only hope for no more kaldor draigos.
.... significant changes to the rules, the timeline and the approach to armybooks.
This would have the business effect of shrinking WFB's overall footprint and freeing up Games Workshop development resources, allowing the entire cycle of WFB army compendiums to be updated on a shorter timescale.
Warseer's Earlybird 6-27-2013
V9 Army books :
Ancient Kingdoms : Lizardmen/High Elves/Wood Elves/Dwarves/Tomb Kings
Servants of Dark Gods : Warriors of Chaos/Daemons of Chaos/Beastmen/Skaven/Dark Elves
Old Word Denizens : The Empire/Bretonnia/Orcs and Goblins/Ogre Kingdoms/Vampire Counts
-All Softcover Armybooks will obsolet with the new release.
-The Starter Box will released at the same time as the Hardback Rulebook
-The Set will include a Book called "Armies of Warhammer", this Book will handle simplified Armylists for ALL avaitable Armies.
-Armies of Warhammer will give Player a little view of all Armies and they Units, also it will be a transitional solution for the obsolet
-Armies of Warhammer will be a part in the Hardback Rulebook
-The Rulebook in the Set will be a simplified "Starter Rulebook"
-A smaller complete Hardback Rulebook will released too, called "Warhammer - The Rules"
-The ruleset will chance again, GW has recognized the last Edition was an hard inpact for sells of Warhammer products
-The number of special rules will reduced
-There will be no releases of Fantasy Suppliments, the books will contain more background. Page numbers up to 150 pages are possible!
Via "Tim the Thief" 10-12-2014
-Warhammer Fantasy 9th Edition & new Starterset next Year
-Starterset becomes "Expansion set" & Mailorder Only special Edition
-Orks & Goblins first 9th editon Armybook
Starter Set of the 9th Edition Warhammer with following content
-simplified Starter Rulebook
-"Armies of Warhammer", simplified Armylists for all
-Orks and Goblins Army
--Captain of the Empire
--New Spearmen (new Design)
--New Musketeers (new Design)
--New Knights (new Design)
The Set becomes an Expansion with Magic as subject
-Small Booklet with Magic Rules
-Additional Models for Mages and two Regiments
Triumph & Treachery
-It has been designed with 9th edition (next summer) in mind.
-Many new rule mechanics are already included in the 9th edition ruleset.
-The main emphasis of the book, multiple players (more than 2) will work with 9th Ed.
-Storm of Magic by contrast will have a harder time being shoe-horned into 9th.
-All army books after Dark Elves are being tested under both 8th and 9th rulesets for a seamless integration with 9th. Earlier books will need various amounts of errata to integrate.
I am not saying Yes or No ... I am saying "I don't know".
All I know is they started into a 'ground up' re-write a couple of years ago.
Nothing was sacred. Not the timeline. Not the stat line. They started with a fresh page.
Anything could have changed ... Everything could have changed.
I have heard ... a few things since ... but not enough to say with any certainty what 9th edition will be.
9th Edition Rules
-Elves roll 3W6 to determine an attack, dwarf roll 1W6
-Movement will be simplified
-Armor saves will change, shield give a special save
-Skirmishers return to the rules from the 7th
-2.500p will be the new standard Size for Battles
-Rules for special dangerous Terrain will be dropped
Regarding the timeline of WFB 9th:
No definite time for this but warhammer fantasy is moving on. By a significant length of time. Significant.
Armies aren't so much being 'squatted' though actually it's quite fitting as the influence of chaos grows and disrupts things, so survivors must band together in a whole new dangerous world
Wood elves are from I've been told may. New edition is June/July and the entire history of Fantasy is moving forwards. Sigmar's Blood was just the tip of the iceberg because that is new events in Fantasy.
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03-11-2013, 01:00 PM #2
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I don't buy it. Ditching all the army books, but holding release off until they've all been done? Seems counter productive to me.Ronnie Soak.
03-11-2013, 01:36 PM #3
Yeah, I'm going into toxic shock from all the salt that comes with those rumours. Even if it is being worked on at the mo, there won't be anything concrete to speculate about. I don't get why hastings is suggesting O&G instead of Skaven; O&G already have an 8th edition book, Skaven are still on 7th ed. Not to mention WE wont get done in 8th.Chief Educator of the Horsemen of Derailment "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought, which they avoid." SOREN KIERKEGAARD
03-11-2013, 02:21 PM #4
Whether the 2015 date is right or not, I would like it if every army was covered before the ruleset is updated again. And yeah Orcs & Goblins have already been done this edition, they were the first to be done even, and there are many armies that are (or should be) ahead of them in the queue to get a new book. Considering how much errata there is for the Skaven book I wouldn't be surprised if they were sooner than listed.Either there is life in the universe more intelligent than us, or we are the most intelligent form of life in the universe. Either way, it's a worrying thought!
03-11-2013, 02:33 PM #5
Not to mention the fact it is unstoppable in low points games. Still, I don't think it will get done until late on; they are a good selling range which is pretty much all plastic and they have a very competitive book. No real need to do them before the end of the cycle. I've also just notice that hastings' rumour about getting all the armies done doesn't include Beastmen, so I think it is safe to assume that Beastmen are going the way of SoB.Chief Educator of the Horsemen of Derailment "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought, which they avoid." SOREN KIERKEGAARD
03-11-2013, 03:55 PM #6
As others have mentioned I find it weird that GW would worry about producing an Army Book for every army in 8th edition only to release 9th edition and say, "All previous Army Books are invalidated". They've certainly done strange things in the past but that would top the cake if true.
Skaven really just need a newly printed book that incorporates all the existing errata. It drives me nuts that probably half the rules section of the book is either ignored, replaced, or otherwise altered.
I also wouldn't be too quick to say Beastmen are going the way of SoB. While they certainly have a weak book, they are still playable (unlike a certain other army) and have several strong points within the book. They received the last 7th edition book so as far as timelines go, they are probably not a pressing concern.
O&G replacing Skaven in the timeline would be weird... the O&G book is fine, a bit bland, but a solid effort that still performs very well and that also brings the army to the 8th edition baseline. If that part were true the only two armies that wouldn't be at the 8th edition baseline would Skaven and Beastmen.Armies - Skaven, Tomb Kings, Eldar, Iron Snakes, Dark Eldar, Retribution, & Legion
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03-11-2013, 11:43 PM #7
03-12-2013, 01:08 AM #8
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I believe what Harry and Hastings say, so 9th in 2015 and more than just tweaking 8th. Until they say something abotu dropping all army books and a Ravening Hordes type set up then I'm burying that under a mountain of salt.Librarians exist because even amongst the Emperor's Finest only a handful understand the Dewey system. Alleged Alpha Female. Back off man, I'm a feminist. Ia! Ia! Gloppal Snode!
03-12-2013, 06:55 AM #9
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Not sure it can be all that radical. Perhaps new flier rules, that could be fun. And something done to Cavalry. Perhaps some kind of 'breakthrough' rule for combat res.Ronnie Soak.
03-12-2013, 03:40 PM #10Chief Educator of the Horsemen of Derailment "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought, which they avoid." SOREN KIERKEGAARD