WFB 9th Edition Rumor Roundup

[Bigred]

via Steve the Warboss 5-27-2015

WFB 9th Release Window Details

-6 Weeks of Releases
-Rulebook and Accessories
-Starter Set
-First Armybook (Empire)
-Released in quick succession
-"Sigmarites" are only another Knightly Order

[Kirsten]

empire armybook is rather different to the mega factions idea.

six weeks of quick releases does suggest some sort of big change that needs updates for.

[Erik Setzer]

At this point, I think the WFB rumors are just entertainment, and we won't have a clue about anything until White Dwarf is in our hands... or maybe even the WFB rulebook.

[Wildeybeast]

Yep, I've yet to see any two set of rumours that actually agree on things. There's probably some truth out there, and everyone has little fragments of it. About the only thing we know for certain is GW have started putting Warhammer models on round bases. Why, and what this means for square bases, is anyone's guess.

[40kGamer]

They may just be testing the water with 9th by allowing square or round before committing to a basing scheme in 10th. Or they may go the 40k route where literally anything goes for basing.

[Mr Mystery]

Harry's info, although now 'dated' seemed fairly sure different bases for different takes on the game.

I can see a Skirmish game working nicely. Warhammer has really, really nice models. Skirmish with wider factions than single force army books allows for a smaller, more eclectic collection to be fielded, without taking away the Warhammer existing players know and love, and there's many thousands of us.

There's room for multiple formats within the background. Indeed, many of the best Warhammer Novels involve the exploits of a small warband against the odds, and it is glorious. I'd wager that a series of novels where they're all massive battle would wear thing quickly. Not even Horus Heresy has done that!

Also interesting that the rumours are getting less and less insane....

[40kGamer]

Mordheim is actually a pretty brilliant skirmish game. Hopefully they build something off of that framework.

[Erik Setzer]

Harry's info, although now 'dated' seemed fairly sure different bases for different takes on the game.

I can see a Skirmish game working nicely. Warhammer has really, really nice models. Skirmish with wider factions than single force army books allows for a smaller, more eclectic collection to be fielded, without taking away the Warhammer existing players know and love, and there's many thousands of us.

There's room for multiple formats within the background. Indeed, many of the best Warhammer Novels involve the exploits of a small warband against the odds, and it is glorious. I'd wager that a series of novels where they're all massive battle would wear thing quickly. Not even Horus Heresy has done that!

Also interesting that the rumours are getting less and less insane....

Obviously multiple formats can work... as they did it in the past, with Warhammer Skirmish and Warbands. Both were nice, but, like when they chopped Kill Team and Combat Patrol out of 40K to try to sell separate (from an already $85 set of rules), they nixed those options and never put them into the core book or updated them for use with later editions. Basically, their own greed and being out of touch with the customer base caused that issue, and now they're finally rectifying it. But it's weird to see so many people who think it's a new or novel concept. The aforementioned Skirmish and Warbands were, at earliest, 6th edition, so people have to be pretty new to the game to not know of their existence. Are there really that few of the "old guard" left? And if most of the customer base, which is shrinking too fast, is under 10 years of time with the games, that's not exactly a promising long term situation.

Anyway... My biggest issue with those rules is the different bases for different play styles thing. You have to be seriously out of touch with players and have very little to no players on staff to think that'd work. I get that some suit-wearing guy might say, "Oh, those games like Warmachine and Malifaux use round bases, so our small game version of Warhammer should use round bases, even though the game normally uses square bases." But anyone who really thinks about it will know people will go with square bases, because no one's going to stop them using those at skirmish level (especially given how many of us already have those set up), and it makes it easier to use the same models in larger games. And if someone at GW is thinking "Hey, they'll buy more models because they'll have to base them different!", they're an idiot, because that makes it more difficult for someone to step from the small scale up to the big scale. You want the skirmish level to be a way to draw people in cheap and hook them before they get gently prodded to the larger scale games. If you're making it impossible for them to use their armies in the larger scale games, you're making it less likely they'll bother to get a larger army.

Basically, I can't see different bases working for different scales, because it would make absolutely no sense, unless someone was having a complete mental lapse. I wouldn't even call that "greed," I'd just call it sheer stupidity and a sign the people making the decisions don't know anything about the products they're trying to sell.

[Bigred]

via Warseer's [URL="http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?409361-Warhammer-9th-Rumor-Discussion-Mk-III&p=7455096&viewfull=1#post7455096"]Lord Dan[/URL] 5-26-2015

Latest WFB 9th "Overview"

Originally Posted by Neo-birdy
Hey Dan, don´t want my name associated with rumours since I don´t know how much GW actually check stuff on forums, but anyway to make a long story short, a guy at GW HQ phoned me today & we had a long conversation since he wants me to become a GW retailer. I told him I was unsure due to recent warhammer fantasy rumours & GW not letting the public know anything, so after a while I got the following things confirmed:

9:th edition is coming out this summer.

Round bases is a go, you will be able to play with Square bases, but after 9:th edition hits, Everything will be sold with round bases.

Everything will be able to skirmish, but many units will be able to rank up as well, GW will releasemovement trays made for this

Unbound will exist, as will bound lists, basically what he told me is that it´s what the public wants, however to avoid powergaming there will be scenarios which require you to hold objectives etc etc & units in an unbound army can´t hold an objective as long as an enemy is within x inches, while bound armies can. He said something about getting bonus points for killing the enemy commander as well, something unbound armies couldn´t get. So they will encourage both styles but in different ways.

He only confirmed one new faction, which was humans, he said it will basically be Empire + Bretonnia & some new troops. He was very clear about no army being squatted though.

[Bigred]

via [URL="http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?409361-Warhammer-9th-Rumor-Discussion-Mk-III&p=7456436&viewfull=1#post7456436"]Atia[/URL] 5-28-2015

Regarding the new "Age of Sigmar" product for WFB 9th:

ladys and gentlemen

i confirm the upcoming release of Age of Sigmar

That image indicates a product page for "Age of Sigmar" exists on the GW website, but is currently not redirecting to another placeholder page until it is used.