Xbox One

[Deadlift]

I know I'm getting one.

[Uncle Nutsy]

Yes, I don't think you'll find a console gamer who would contest the fact that PC gamers are the best at playing WOW 24/7 hunched over their keyboards in their parent's basement.

Now come on. Don't ya think that's a bit of a blanket statement? there are some of us pc gamers that play stuff like Borderlands. looove that loot n shoot.

[eldargal]

Yes, I don't think you'll find a console gamer who would contest the fact that PC gamers are the best at playing WOW 24/7 hunched over their keyboards in their parent's basement.

Also better for the following:

Everything.



But seriously any game that can be modded is better on PC plus any game that would benefit from a inventory and interfacce system that it isn'y clumsy. I know a lot of people who went out and bought gaming PCs after playing Skyrim on a console for example, because they wanted to use mods. If you just want to play an FPS without worrying about specs then a console is better.

I forgot that every cross platform game sold more on PC's than consoles

Oh

No

Wait

They don't.

PC gamers generally need to get off their high horse and realise that people don't give damn about their higher specs or stuff, just want to play games and generally play all formats

You don't see anyone saying "I own a *BLANK* that automaticaly makes me better than anyone who chooses an alternative"

Might have something to do with the fact that the ports are often bad and the graphics rubbish.

PCs are better systems, but that does't matter if you just want to play games and have fun. I can see the advantage of having a console and use my brothers when there is a game I want to play but it isn't on PC. Or the port is terrible (Force Unleashed). Doesn't make anyone better than anyone else.

[DarkLink]

But seriously any game that can be modded is better on PC plus any game that would benefit from a inventory and interfacce system that it isn'y clumsy. I know a lot of people who went out and bought gaming PCs after playing Skyrim on a console for example, because they wanted to use mods. If you just want to play an FPS without worrying about specs then a console is better.

Dark Souls is better than Skyrim anyways, and the control scheme would be super-awkward on a PC. Though Dark Souls could use a better system for swapping magic on the fly, it's too awkward to select your spell and have to swap out your weapon for your magic focus and have such limited ammo.

FPS I can understand, some people just prefer the mouse, though I find the second joystick and well-placed buttons are so much better than a keyboard that you trade one weakness for another, so it's really a wash. RTS, too, I guess, though I played Halo Wars and the controls for that worked great even if the game itself was average. For pretty much everything else, joysticks beat keyboards.

Might have something to do with the fact that the ports are often bad and the graphics rubbish.

So PC games are better and have better graphics, except when they aren't ? But seriously, how much does a high end gaming computer cost? A lot more than a console. A lot more. I can buy a game console and be playing games in as short a time it takes me to plug it into my TV for a fraction of the cost of just the computer, let alone the additional cost of buying the PC games and the time it takes to install them and download patches and all that stuff. And console graphics are still pretty freakin' good. Halo 4 is a beautiful thing, literally speaking. That much extra money to go from great graphics to really great graphics is something for hardcore gamers only, usually.

[eldargal]

It would be super awkward 'cos console interfaces have to be quite basic as they are limited by the controller.

Pc games are better and have better graphics when they are designed to run on a PC and take advantage of its generally superior capabilies. It's not just about better graphics either, as mentioned above re: modding.

[Wolfshade]

It is all horses for causes.

You can't make a direct comparison between PC & console because they are used for other things.

I use my PC for work, internet browsing, tv streaming, all manner of other things other than just gaming.

If you only play FPS games then the two are of a par, if and only if the game is written for both types or is ported very well. (How not to port: [url]http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/02/stop-making-horrible-console-ports-a-guide/[/url])

Yes the intial cost of a high end pc is higher, but could provide a more pretty environment (again assuming that the game has the capability to maximise the hardware to the fullest). Though brought a PC back in 2003 for uni and with about £100 of upgrades over the last 10 years, more if you include the hard drives which were used for media storage and I can still use it to play the latest released games.
On a point on prices consider assassins creed 4 black flag, Xbox PS3 price £40, PC £36 (all from amazon, yes I know you could probably get it cheaper elsewhere) but the point is how many games do you buy before that price difference is signficiant.

I prefer (grand) strategy games and those don't appear on consoles because a joypad cannot cope with the interface demands. That is not a criticism, that is just the way it is.

[Psychosplodge]

Spec arguments are red herrings. It's the games that matter. The 360 has outsold the PS3 despite generally weaker hardware, and the Wii outsold them both. And when it's a contest between a few thousand dollars for a good gaming PC vs a few hundred for a plug and play console... unless computers are your hobby or you've got no life, there really isn't much of a contest.

Only if you buy off the shelf. Any idiot can build one these days for a fraction of the price.

I know I'm getting one.

What happened to deadpanda?

[Kirsten]

the more I learn about it the less impressed I am, I really think they are shooting themselves in the foot.
you have to connect to the internet at least once a day
you have to have a Kinect
you cannot turn off the Kinect microphone
you cannot borrow games from friends
it has no backwards compatibility
you have to install every game
you will have to pay extra for preowned games.

none of that appeals, it really seems like they are trying to dictate far too much.

[Psychosplodge]

[Mr Mystery]

the more I learn about it the less impressed I am, I really think they are shooting themselves in the foot.
you have to connect to the internet at least once a day
you have to have a Kinect
you cannot turn off the Kinect microphone
you cannot borrow games from friends
it has no backwards compatibility
you have to install every game
you will have to pay extra for preowned games.

none of that appeals, it really seems like they are trying to dictate far too much.

Yup. Plus, it's another XBox. Everyone still remembers the fun and games they had with the RedRing360 yes? Except this time around, your Kinect will probably take it turns to die....