Xbox One

[Wolfshade]

Certainly wouldn't need central heating for my house...

[Kirsten]

one thing I don't like is this push to incorporate all sorts of media. both the xbox and PS are going to have so much extra stuff tacked on. each one is a one stop entertainment hub, like every other piece of tech in my house these days...
can I just have one that plays games?

[Psychosplodge]

you want a Wii U then...

[Wolfshade]

you want a Wii U then...

If only that had games...
Otherwise it is just a lovefilm HD streamer

[Psychosplodge]

If only that had games...
Otherwise it is just a lovefilm HD streamer

Then I'd be all

[DarkLink]

Sorry Doc, just re-read that, every console argument ever has been a pissing contest about specs, it only stops mattering when there's a clear winner

Spec arguments are red herrings. It's the games that matter. The 360 has outsold the PS3 despite generally weaker hardware, and the Wii outsold them both. And when it's a contest between a few thousand dollars for a good gaming PC vs a few hundred for a plug and play console... unless computers are your hobby or you've got no life, there really isn't much of a contest.

[Wildeybeast]

As opposed to the PS4 reveal that didnt evn show the console or any games that weren't CGI and weren't running on the console and just showed that they can record video and share it straight to youtube

This was never going to be about games it was only about hardware. E3 is for the games

Timed exclusive CoD content, 15 exclusives in year 1, 8 new unique IPs....Microsoft was a lot better here than Sony were.

Better than Sony's launch is damning with faint praise. They told you next to nothing about the hardware. They spent roughly to twenty to 30 minutes telling you about how you can watch TV on it, whilst no doubt getting a shameless kick back for saying 'Star Trek' as many times as possible.

Having said that I think having a working demo is a brilliant stroke of genius which PS4 should have done, rather than using pre-rendered shots run though a demo pc.
I'll just await my HMC.

It is not a stroke of genius, it is basic business sense. In virtually any other context, launching a product without the actual product is business suicide.

The biggest issue is MS massively mis-pitched this. Whilst having an all-round entertainment system will sell well and opens up a new market, the people who care about that are not the people who tune in to watch a live-streamed product launch. The hardcore gamers are and the only bones they got tossed were an EA sports commercial and the oh so exciting news that CoD now has dogs with much more realistic looking fur. I get that they will hold most of the game news back for E3, but they failed one of the most basic business tests of knowing your market.

[Wolfshade]

I was being facetiousness...

[DarkLink]

[Bitrider]

didn't bother watching the reveal, got plenty of time to learn all about it. I will say it looks like it was made in the 80s though. does it take beta max?

Beige-box betamax indeed.