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  1. #8061

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    I still find it bizarre that social justice warrior is a pejorative. How many mental loopholes do you have to jump through to convince yourself that the people arguing for equality are the bad guys?

    It's like, you know what we call people who don't want different races, creeds, sexualities and genders to be treated equally? Bullies.

    Anyway, I've been a SJW since before we had a cool-sounding name and I can't imagine it'll ever change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    Anyway, I've been a SJW since before we had a cool-sounding name
    You have one? What is it?

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    Social Justice Warrior.

    It just sounds badass. Much better than 'loony leftie' or 'whining liberal'. Not to mention it abbreviates to three letters, which as any fan of wrasslin' will tell you, is instant awesome.

    Appellation appropriated.

    And if you'd like me to differentiate the use of the pronoun 'we' (distinguishing a group of individuals, as in an ideological group such as here) from 'I' (meaning myself as an individual) to help improve your jokey-joke, why, I'm only too happy to do so. Consider that my gift to you.

    And at no charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    Social Justice Warrior.

    It just sounds badass. Much better than 'loony leftie' or 'whining liberal'. Not to mention it abbreviates to three letters, which as any fan of wrasslin' will tell you, is instant awesome.
    What about the rest of the classes? Social Justice Cleric, or Wizard, or Rogue, or Ranger, or... (Can someone be a Social Justice Barbarian?) I for one like to consider myself a Social Justice Eldritch Knight.

    And if you'd like me to differentiate the use of the pronoun 'we' (distinguishing a group of individuals, as in an ideological group such as here) from 'I' (meaning myself as an individual) to help improve your jokey-joke, why, I'm only too happy to do so. Consider that my gift to you.

    And at no charge.
    See? This is why we need an official second person plural in English. After all, other languages have one... We have... y'all, you lot, you guys, and maybe a few others... Despite being Midwestern American, I prefer the southern y'all. But enough threadjacking. Back to things...

    As for the GG topic, I find it interesting that even in this thread, who tend (from observation) to lean towards what we consider the left in the US, there are people on both sides of the fence. I find myself to be pro-gamer, anti-harassment. I think the best solution for GamerGate is for both sides to stop using the hashtag, either to defend it or to attack it and come back with a better front. One that both sides agree is laudable. But that might be my idealism talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex Knight View Post
    We have... y'all, you lot, you guys, and maybe a few others... Despite being Midwestern American, I prefer the southern y'all...
    I quite prefer the Tennessee vernacular "You'uns" myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YorkNecromancer View Post
    it abbreviates to three letters
    TLA's are the way forward.
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    I really like this article for quite a simple reason.

    [url]http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29654634[/url]

    it doesn't go out of its' way to scream 'women's football!' at you. it is simply 'Manchester City beat Arsenal'

    doing it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirsten View Post
    TLA's are the way forward.
    Techno-Lesbian Alliance?

    [URL="https://storify.com/EffNOVideoGames/stopgamergate-it-has-always-been-a-spin"]Here is a good resource of the actual, genuine birth of GamerGate on 4chan [/URL]etc. This is what started the GamerGate hashtag, this group of people with links to Zoe Quinns ex got together to plot how to use 'SJW' language and some kind of moral outrage as a screen for their misogynist takedowns of Zoe Quinn and later other prominent female/feminist developers and figures. This is GamerGate, if you try and talk about it being anything other tham misogynist hate campaigns you are just buying into the propaganda and spin they put out. There is not two sides to this.
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    [URL="http://www.themarysue.com/eron-gjoni-gamergate-interview/"]Oh and this is the guy, Zoe Quinns ex, who started it all:
    [/URL]
    I can’t deny my letter was the spark. I guess I feel compelled to offer an apology to them. But also I don’t know how to do that without taking the responsibility away from people who are actually doing the harassment. But, I guess, let me know how I can make it up to you?



    This man literally created GamerGate, it started as an attempt to shame is ex who cheated on him when they were apparently already separated. This is the beating heart of GamerGate. He deliberately planned how to maximise it's impact:

    It has NOTHING to do with journalistic ethics, it NEVER did. GamerGate is anti-feminist, anti-diversity harassment and nothing more. There is no other interpretation, there is no other side to it. There are just people believing the lies put out by these filth to mask their actions.
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    Game Dev: ”Josh Mattingly was being a total ****ing creeper on Facebook last night.”

    Games Journalists: “HOLY **** LET’S PUBLISH THE CHATLOGS THIS IS TOTALLY INDUSTRY RELATED.”

    Josh Mattingly: ”My bad, I was drunk. I’m gonna quit.”

    ———-

    Someone Pseudonymously Known as Magz: “Max Temkin had not-entirely-consensual sex with me one time way back in college. Well, it was more like, a crime of opportunity, but yeah.”

    Games Journalists: “HOLY **** WHAT THE **** LET’S SIGNAL BOOST THIS IT IS TOTALLY INDUSTRY RELATED.”

    Max Temkin: “I have no idea what’s going on but I’m sorry.”

    ———-

    Former Employee of Stardock Entertainment: ”Brad Wardell sort of maybe sexually harassed me.”

    Games Journalists: ”HOLY **** LET’S PUBLISH THE COURT DOCUMENTS AND EVERY ALLEGATION YOUR LAWYER MADE UP TO HOPE SOMETHING STICKS! THIS IS VERY INDUSTRY RELATED.”

    Former Employee of Stardock Entertainment: “Oh oops, no I made it up, deleted a bunch of his files. Sorry for that.”

    -------------------------------------------

    Wolf Wozniak: “Oh ****. Zoe? She sexually harassed me at a wedding.”

    Games Journalists: “Sorry what? We couldn’t hear you over the sound of how private these matters are.”

    Chloe Van Keenan: “Wait — she said infidelity is a violation of consent? Doesn’t that mean she was complicit in violating my consent when she was sleeping with my boyfriend?”

    Games Journalists: “Are you guys seeing all of this harassment Zoe is getting? This is totally uncalled for. I can’t believe how misogynistic this community is.”

    Abuse Survivors: “Uhh, guys? Has anyone read these chatlogs? She’s being like textbook psychologically abusive here. Like, this is pages and pages of triggering.”

    Games Journalists: “RELATIONSHIP ABUSE IS A PRIVATE MATTER. THIS IS NOT INDUSTRY RELATED.”

    “Games Enthusiasts”: “Uhh, but we want to know these things because we don’t want to support people who do these horrible sorts of things—”

    Games Journalists: “JESUS CHRIST HOW MISOGYNISTIC CAN YOU GET??”

    Zoe Quinn: “I’m still trying to come to terms with everything because I thought that false abuse / rape claims literally never happened up until now. Also, uhhh, 4chan is spreading nudes of me on the internet”

    Games Journalists: “HOLY **** THEY’RE SPREADING NUDES OF YOU?? THIS IS OBSCENE WHY WOULD THEY BE SO MAD AS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AFTER WE’VE COMPLETELY IGNORED EVERY SINGLE THING YOU’VE DONE WRONG TO PROTECT YOU?? ARE YOU OKAY?? WE’RE COMING OVER TO MAKE SURE YOU’RE OKAY.”

    Mallorie Nasrallah: “Uh, hi. Those nudes were from a porn pay site. They were back from when Zoe was doing porn. They’re not private or anything. I was her photographer at one point. Within an hour of meeting me she claimed she murdered someone who tried to rape her. These sorts of claims were not out of the ordinary for her… like I’ve met her and her ex is really right to have warned you. You guys should really be careful.”

    Games Journalists: “EXCUSE ME WE’RE TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT MISOGYNY HERE.”
    So no double standards in games journalism?
    I think this is from the[URL="http://antinegationism.tumblr.com/post/100190762106/joe-bernstein-is-claiming-the-transcript-you-posted"] same logs[/URL] as yours.

    but to fair shes largely irrelevant to this now, the accusations surrounding her were merely the straw that broke the camels back. Lots of the reports have said this was coming.

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