A Crash Course in Feminism Mk. II (or, why everyone should be a feminist)

[Rissan4ever]

Question - why should men care what you think of their comments which they think are innocuous? If 'nobody else gets to decide what is sexual about someone else' then why should anybody else get to decide what is offensive about anybody else?

That's the dumbest thing you've said all day.

When someone dresses sexy, they're not doing anything to you. There is no aggressive action there. But when you say something, even if you think it's innocuous, you have taken action against that person. If you say something that offends someone, regardless of whether you intended to offend them or not, you should apologize. That's just good manners.

[Deadlift]

That's because your a nice guy Nab you know what's appropriate and what isn't. Unfortunately not everyone does.

[Psychosplodge]

Geez, you guys think you can just post like six pages of comments because the colonies are asleep. Way to have all the fun without us.

Well its not our fault if you keep silly hours

[Rissan4ever]

That's because your a nice guy Nab you know what's appropriate and what isn't. Unfortunately not everyone does.

Well, they bloody well should. How hard is it to teach and have good manners and respect for other people? I mean, really? It's not like it's complicated. All you have to do is treat other people with the same respect you'd like to be treated with yourself. That's it.

[Deadlift]

Well, they bloody well should. How hard is it to teach and have good manners and respect for other people? I mean, really? It's not like it's complicated. All you have to do is treat other people with the same respect you'd like to be treated with yourself. That's it.

Your treating everybody from your own standards mate, I'm afraid the worlds just not like that.

[Kirsten]

When someone dresses sexy, they're not doing anything to you. There is no aggressive action there. But when you say something, even if you think it's innocuous, you have taken action against that person. If you say something that offends someone, regardless of whether you intended to offend them or not, you should apologize. That's just good manners.

exactly

[Rissan4ever]

Your treating everybody from your own standards mate, I'm afraid the worlds just not like that.

Isn't it? All the major religions have some tenet or teaching that basically says "Be excellent to each other." It's not a standard that just some small segment of the population holds. It's a standard that the god/gods most of us worship challenge us to hold ourselves to. And I think we have a responsibility as human beings to meet that challenge, to be better people and show our children how to be better people. Nobody ever made the world a better place by shrugging their shoulders because "that's just the way it is." Things aren't going to get better unless we change and encourage others to change as well.

[Psychosplodge]

Yet they still kill each other for being the wrong sect, or put that aside to kill those of the wrong faith...

[Kirsten]

Nobody ever made the world a better place by shrugging their shoulders because "that's just the way it is." Things aren't going to get better unless we change and encourage others to change as well.

also true

[Deadlift]

Isn't it? All the major religions have some tenet or teaching that basically says "Be excellent to each other." It's not a standard that just some small segment of the population holds. It's a standard that the god/gods most of us worship challenge us to hold ourselves to. And I think we have a responsibility as human beings to meet that challenge, to be better people and show our children how to be better people. Nobody ever made the world a better place by shrugging their shoulders because "that's just the way it is." Things aren't going to get better unless we change and encourage others to change as well.

Oh my, don't bring religion into this. But what I will say is both of our prison systems population would disprove your point. Yes parents do have a duty to their children to ensure they pass on the message what's right and wrong. Unfortunately you don't have to be a good person to raise children.
What society is and what it should be are two very different things.